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Old 09-22-2023, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KenTO
Just at my dealer now, one of the biggest in N America. My SA is telling me sports car demand is suddenly way down, people are actually backing out of orders where before they were paying premiums. Most sales now are highly optioned new Cayennes.
Could that be because many are waiting to see what the 992.2 will have in store?
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Old 09-22-2023, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zinedine Zidane

I am inclined to negotiate off the clear bra for another year or two of maintenance. Something useful to me. I feel like the bra is more of a detriment on resale than an enhancement. Am I wrong?
It's a good idea to try to switch the ADM to something like maintenance over a dealer installed PPF. PPF is great IMO, but dealer installed PPF is usually pretty bad as others have posted. It's much better to get PPF from a reputable installer independent of the dealership as most good PPF installers don't need dealership business.
Old 09-22-2023, 04:54 PM
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Ask the dealer who does PPF. Some dealers outsource to reputable shops.

PPF is definitely good to have for resale on a $130K + car.
Old 09-22-2023, 05:27 PM
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It is, in fact, a reputable shop they outsource it to.

I’m going to swallow their offer if I can get a decent price out of them for my trade so I can make some money on my lease residual. Hell, I’m not trying to nickel and dime, but I need something! Can’t just totally take it up the keister!
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Originally Posted by KenTO
Just at my dealer now, one of the biggest in N America. My SA is telling me sports car demand is suddenly way down, people are actually backing out of orders where before they were paying premiums. Most sales now are highly optioned new Cayennes.
While the market started softening a bit a couple of months ago, "demand is suddenly way down" sounds a bit dramatic. Dealers are still commanding ADMs and online auctions are still brining in premiums. Perhaps it's because you're in Toronto and it's late September? Unless we have a 2008 sized financial meltdown, I don't see supply meeting demand, especially for 911s, anytime soon.
Old 09-22-2023, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilder
While the market started softening a bit a couple of months ago, "demand is suddenly way down" sounds a bit dramatic. Dealers are still commanding ADMs and online auctions are still brining in premiums. Perhaps it's because you're in Toronto and it's late September? Unless we have a 2008 sized financial meltdown, I don't see supply meeting demand, especially for 911s, anytime soon.
I agree, interest rates increasing and market uncertainty make some people back off. A year ago, there was not a single 911 on my dealer's lot. Now there are 6-7 CPOs but all new 911s are sold before they arrive.
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I mean...how many buyers of new 911s are going to be swayed by 6% interest rates instead of 3-4%? IMO, zero.
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Old 09-22-2023, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KenTO
Just at my dealer now, one of the biggest in N America. My SA is telling me sports car demand is suddenly way down, people are actually backing out of orders where before they were paying premiums. Most sales now are highly optioned new Cayennes.
I can't wait for this to be true. Of course, this will be when I get my allocation.


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Originally Posted by KenTO
Just at my dealer now, one of the biggest in N America. My SA is telling me sports car demand is suddenly way down, people are actually backing out of orders where before they were paying premiums. Most sales now are highly optioned new Cayennes.
Let’s see the canceled order list. Blowing smoke, trying to sell highly optioned Cayennes since that’s what they can get.
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I vote w/those who say that, unless you wanted an automatic, wait for a stick. Not for resale value or anything. But because it will be a far more engaging car in every circumstance that isn't a stoplight race.

OTOH, if you want the PDK, not that there's anything wrong with that, then go ahead and give the dealership what they want.
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Originally Posted by MaddMike
I agree, interest rates increasing and market uncertainty make some people back off. A year ago, there was not a single 911 on my dealer's lot. Now there are 6-7 CPOs but all new 911s are sold before they arrive.
As an additional piece of information, on Porsche.it there are currently 84 992 available, 8 of which are new. A year ago there were approx 25 cars and zero new ones.
Old 09-23-2023, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stespa
As an additional piece of information, on Porsche.it there are currently 84 992 available, 8 of which are new. A year ago there were approx 25 cars and zero new ones.
I wish that information helped with adm but not in my case. I was able to talk them down from the standard $10k but I still had to pay one of o wanted the car.
Old 09-24-2023, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyDL757
I mean...how many buyers of new 911s are going to be swayed by 6% interest rates instead of 3-4%? IMO, zero.
Realtors?
Old 09-24-2023, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Icegrill
Let’s see the canceled order list. Blowing smoke, trying to sell highly optioned Cayennes since that’s what they can get.
Nobody cancels a no-deposit order - they just decline when they get the allocation call.
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Old 09-25-2023, 11:48 PM
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You sound like a Master negotiator to me. You should get the bra, 5 years of maintenance, 100k warranty, and at least 7% off the car. Remember you’re going to be a repeat customer. Accept nothing less…..
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