You know how some people can be outside all day in a forest and never get bit?

My car is literally the opposite of that. It makes no damn sense either because I'm careful of where and how I drive.

 

was that so difficult?
no, you can disagree w/ me all you want. the d-bag attitude comes when you are condescending to others in doing so. Repeatedly. Someone saying they don't want to pay for it doesn't mean "they can't afford it", but you went to that. I don't know how you got "uneducated" but again, condescending.

I expanded my reason to show how a simple "don't like the vinyl look" can turn condescending - by comparing it to plastic covered furniture (low class, cheap, something people here would take offense to). That was on purpose to make a point. which went way over your head apparently. But i'm not going to go and make conclusions about your education or intelligence. THAT would be douche bag behavior. Maybe you can now see the difference.

so how about just accepting that people have different tastes and value formulas for where they want to put their money, and understanding that that doesnt make them, poor, cheap, or stupid.

EDIT: I do want to add that, i'm not personally slighted or offended. I just thought you were being rude which was counter productive to the forum's purpose, and sometimes, i get annoyed by that so i'll call someone out on it. So if you were not intending to be condescending, take this as constructive feedback on how you unintentionally came across

 

i'm like your car. I step outside and if there's a mosquito within 1000ft it finds me. I'll get 4 bites walking to the mailbox during the summer.

 

Back in the early 80's I was working at IBM in the UK, on a project developing the 1st POS system for Tesco. It was fun, the team was largely recruited directly from Cambridge University and knew how to have fun while innovating. Nothing to do with PPF of course but you're right, some people can't see the wood for the trees.

 

I never accused you or anyone here of not being able to afford it. I highly doubt that most people here have financial issues with it.. I think the biggest challenge here is lack of knowledge about PPF and or not really caring if their car gets scratched up or rock chips. I’m sticking with that. As far as you thinking it looks like plastic covered furniture, something we obviously had to deal with in 1970s lol (I’m 53) I just don’t understand it. I’ve seen hundreds of cars with PPF and not one of them looked that way in my opinion. I have never seen or heard an owner of a car that had PPF describe it that way either but to each their own.. I think what you don’t like about me is I’m calling BS on people that really don’t know much about it, but speak against it. Some people on forums do the same thing when it comes to Radar Detectors/ laser jammers and other countermeasures as well as tuning cars. People just come on those threads, talk a bunch of **** that they don’t know what they’re talking about, and even worse they negatively influence others who are genuinely trying to find out information. So if I come off as condescending that’s the reason why. I personally try not to talk about things I’m ignorant on. PPF is not one of them. There are all kinds of great threads on this forum that I read and they are discussing things I’ve never done before and have no idea about. I suppose I could jump on there and give my opinion about things, but since I have no experience with that, I don’t. I hope this helps clarify where I’m coming from. I certainly don’t want to offend anyone here. I think for the most part, outside of a handful of super elitists, this place is pretty awesome. So I apologize if you took anything personally.

 

Uhhhh you did it twice:
So don't know what to tell you... maybe just be more aware of how you come across. . Now as to the rest of this message...

i get why you'd have the above stance on people not knowing about PPF. (and FWIW, calling BS on people is something i welcome) I don't know how many of the people you meet have had it on their cars for over 4 or 5 years though. But i know a guy (personal friend) who does PPF installs. He is f*cking amazing at his job. you can't tell it's even on there when he installs it. No seams, no exposed edges. In talking with him, he even agreed with me that after 4 or 5 years, the self healing is basically shot, and if you plan on having the car for longer than that, plan on having the ppf redone if you don't want it to look weathered. So, i don't know.. maybe new films will last better, but hard to say until they hit that longer term life.

 

I gave you my reasons why people in general don’t do it. That doesn’t mean people here don’t do it because they can’t afford it. Please understand the difference. I won’t accuse you of spinning my words because you misunderstood me. Let’s just say you in fact misunderstood me. However, there definitely are people that can’t afford it. I doubt very seriously you’re going to argue with me about that. They also hide that as a reason why they’re against it. I’ve caught people on other forums doing just that.

 

ok, that's a distinction i didn't catch when reading your messages. i interpreted it as a general statement that also applied to anyone here that would be against it.

So then you can safely say i misunderstood you. so for that, i apologize myself.

 

To me, stone chips are the worst part of 911 ownership. These cars are the most powerful stone magnets man has created. They're inevitable, especially in the southwest USA.

PPF, PPF, PPF. At the very least the front clip. Out here, even PPF will get chewed up and the chips will still make their way through.

 

Rereading what I wrote I definitely could’ve written it better. I can understand why there was confusion. I apologize as well.

 

I don't like how PFF ages, I don't like dirt by the seams for those who do not get it tucked, and not all jobs are done correctly.

 

If it’s done properly, neither of those two things will happen. However, if it’s not done properly, I completely agree with you.

Reputable, PPF installers warranty their work well beyond the length of time most people own there vehicle.

 

One of the underrated benefits of PPF is the gloss that’s almost always there, including between washes.

 

I care but not enough to wrap my car in plastic.

 

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