992 base 6s 60-130
#61
you did not tell me why you think this, what you stated is internet knowledge, except track times have A LOT to do with power to weight.
So tell me why a 992 base that weighs a lot less than a TTS, wearing the same rubber will be so horrible to turn compare to that TTS? Tell me what components the TTS has that will greatly make up for its extra 300-400lbs and be noticed when it comes to its handling ability. Spring rate and even CCB vs the weight savings is a toss up. AWD is questionable at best when it comes to best handling. Not to mention you will never be able to approach even 8/10th on the street and most wont even be able to extract that on track.
So tell me why a 992 base that weighs a lot less than a TTS, wearing the same rubber will be so horrible to turn compare to that TTS? Tell me what components the TTS has that will greatly make up for its extra 300-400lbs and be noticed when it comes to its handling ability. Spring rate and even CCB vs the weight savings is a toss up. AWD is questionable at best when it comes to best handling. Not to mention you will never be able to approach even 8/10th on the street and most wont even be able to extract that on track.
larger: wheels, rotors, brakes. I suspect this trio is most of it.
Rear wheel steering
larger speaker magnets assuming the base Carrera has the base stereo.
Four-wheel-drive
helper springs
Probably also some other things that I'm not thinking of at the moment.
#62
#63
Uhm, what? You can option forged wheels like the exclusive design monoblock forged wheels on any trim level. What are you talking about. Not even sure if the standard wheel on GTS/TTS is forged, too lazy to look it up,
#64
#65
On the Turbo/GTS - only the Turbo wheels are forged, the RS spyder or classics that are alaos available are not.
So, in summary, you can have forged wheels on any model ...and you can choose to have standard alloy/cast wheels on any mode too, ooo
#66
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Exciting stuff. I recently got a T and I'm enjoying wringing it out with stock power but at some point I may want more. Can you discern more lag with either the larger turbos and/or the tune compared to stock?
Also, your car looks great but dropping a bit of unsprung weight with lighter wheels may not be a bad idea.
Also, your car looks great but dropping a bit of unsprung weight with lighter wheels may not be a bad idea.
#67
The wheels are a bit of a "red herring"... the rotors and the calipers are where there is a significant weight difference where it matters: unsprung.
#68
You are a man after my own heart, someone who can appreciate value for money.
I am very impressed with your results.
I have a very similar car, no options. I love it.
With the turbos, exhaust and the tuning, how much do you think a sensible budget would be to obtain what you have achieved? $20k?
I am very impressed with your results.
I have a very similar car, no options. I love it.
With the turbos, exhaust and the tuning, how much do you think a sensible budget would be to obtain what you have achieved? $20k?
#69
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Sorry but no. Swapping to lighter wheels is always felt instantly, even in heavy cars like my 4,200lb Macan. Base Carrera already has light (small) calipers and rotors that work very well. Obviously the closer the weight loss to the axel the higher its efficiency but that doesn't make wheels or even tires a "red herring".
#70
Instructor
Say hello if you see a Cab 4S in Aventurine Green with Truffle seats.
#71
Intermediate
Thread Starter
You are a man after my own heart, someone who can appreciate value for money.
I am very impressed with your results.
I have a very similar car, no options. I love it.
With the turbos, exhaust and the tuning, how much do you think a sensible budget would be to obtain what you have achieved? $20k?
I am very impressed with your results.
I have a very similar car, no options. I love it.
With the turbos, exhaust and the tuning, how much do you think a sensible budget would be to obtain what you have achieved? $20k?
Shot you a PM on the cost, its much less
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#72
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Also in the lower Bucks area. Just got an allocation and placed an order at Warrington (after a two year wait on the waiting list of four other dealers............) for a 2024 Cabriolet 4S due in November. Ryan and Chris were great.
Say hello if you see a Cab 4S in Aventurine Green with Truffle seats.
Say hello if you see a Cab 4S in Aventurine Green with Truffle seats.
Warrington is a pretty great dealer, the service staff is great with modified cars.
Congrats I'm sure I'll see you around.
#73
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That's the beauty of what Porsche has done in going twin turbo on all the non-GT cars. Porsche has even over spec'd the stock fuel system on the 3.0L engines to the point that they can deliver enough fuel for E85 tunes. That allows these motors to run significantly more aggressive timing and boost. I think M Engineering has the 3.0L hitting around 600whp on E85. Considering the weight difference without the AWD, 4WS, etc the "stripper" base 992's can be the ultimate sleepers, running 5-6s 60-130 and high 9/low 10s quarter miles. That would be very frustrating and embarrassing to other exotic owners to get pulled on by.
Last edited by eclou; 09-03-2023 at 06:35 PM.
#74
RL Community Team
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A 911 is not a “sleeper”