Quikag

What kind of power are you making? I figure around 600 wheel? Also what psi on the turbos?

reddsektor

My pdk (tcu) is flashed. It saved 0.2s off my time. I’m on stock intercooler. Still, these are extremely fast times I’ve not seen before on tuned 992’s and stock internals. ES tune must be doing something. Awesome to hear nonetheless.

baldwinflyer

Maybe it was my break-in lol
When the weather gets cooler we'll see how much quicker it goes. The lower weight vs a C4 or TTS makes it a blast to drive too, of all 992 I've driven I have to say its the most fun even without the extra power.

detansinn

Between the cost of the work, voided warranty and depreciation, I am not entirely that this is a so called “poor man’s” solution. 😂

How much boost are you running? Do you know what your AFR target is? Given how much quicker you are than an S or GTS, you’re likely pushing some serious numbers.

It’s clearly, plenty quick. Your “beaten many Turbo S” assertion raised an eyebrow 🤨 — I’ve seen more 992 GT3s than 992 Turbo S cars. I am glad that you’re enjoying the car and look forward to your updates. 👍

baldwinflyer

You are pretty close with that guess. I'll have to check a log and see where peak boost has been landing.

baldwinflyer

My all in total is very low considering I paid no ADM and was before the bigger price increases, so poor man compared to a TTS yes, voided warranty on powertrain also yes...but who expects the OEM to pay for something the owner did. This isn't my first rodeo and anyone modifying any car should know the risks.- well there are a few brand/models that standout as lacking understanding in this area lol

My local dealer is very mod friendly and Porsche does really well with modded cars and understanding faults of non-impacted parts. - If your dealer is Porsche Warrington (Sloane) they'd tell you this too.

You are very local to me and in the past 6 months I've encountered many TTS in this area. You should go to a Racemotive event and see how many 911 you run into, you'll find everything from stock 992 TTS to 1400whp 911 and everything in-between, not to mention all of the other vehicles.

- I ran into 2 TTS this week on route 611 alone!

baldwinflyer

My all in total is very low considering I paid no ADM and was before the bigger price increases, so poor man compared to a TTS yes, voided warranty on powertrain also yes...but who expects the OEM to pay for something the owner did. This isn't my first rodeo and anyone modifying any car should know the risks.- well there are a few brand/models that standout as lacking understanding in this area lol

My local dealer is very mod friendly and Porsche does really well with modded cars and understanding faults of non-impacted parts. - If your dealer is Porsche Warrington (Sloane) they'd tell you this too.

You are very local to me and in the past 6 months I've encountered many TTS in this area. You should go to a Racemotive event and see how many 911 you run into, you'll find everything from stock 992 TTS to 1400whp 911 and everything in-between, not to mention all of the other vehicles.

- I ran into 2 TTS this week on route 611 alone!

baldwinflyer

Here is a great post by ESMOTOR on the 992 they recently tuned making serious power (nearly 800wheel)…crazy numbers! This is same tuner who tuned my car, ESMOTOR is one of if not the most experienced custom Porsche tuners out there. Seems they went high 4s/low 5s on this setup.

ipse dixit

I guess if you are drag racing your car, it is indeed a poor man's Turbo S; in fact, I would say, it's actually better than just a poor man's TTS.

But then what happens when you have to turn?

Even the poorest people have to turn their car at some point in time methinks.

baldwinflyer

Because a non “turbo” 992 handles horrible lol.

With similar power and the same rubber what makes you think a 992 thats lighter than a TTS, wont keep up, maybe even out brake and out handle it?

ipse dixit

Because handling is more than just weight and power, or weight to power ratio.

If it was that simple, car companies like (Kia/Hyundai) would not be poaching talent from BMW M division to chassis tune their street cars, or whey MB has an AMG division, or why Porsche has a GT division, or why (for a while there) Audi was spanking everyone with their Quattro system.

If it was just weight and power, then anyone would be able to make cars ride like they were riding on those proverbial "rails".

It's great that your car can go fast in a straight line, but really, most people are not buying Porsches to go from Point A to Point B without using the steering wheel for its intended purpose. At least they shouldn't be.

baldwinflyer

you did not tell me why you think this, what you stated is internet knowledge, except track times have A LOT to do with power to weight.

So tell me why a 992 base that weighs a lot less than a TTS, wearing the same rubber will be so horrible to turn compare to that TTS? Tell me what components the TTS has that will greatly make up for its extra 300-400lbs and be noticed when it comes to its handling ability. Spring rate and even CCB vs the weight savings is a toss up. AWD is questionable at best when it comes to best handling. Not to mention you will never be able to approach even 8/10th on the street and most wont even be able to extract that on track.

ipse dixit

Enjoy your car, my friend.

baldwinflyer

its comments like yours that make forums hated. If want to talk trash on what a 992 base owner will do when its time to turn at least be able to explain why us “poor” base owners will have such a horrible time handling compared to other 992.

I’ve been lucky enough to drive many 992(TT, C2,C2S, C4S) for extended periods, and I’ve found no amazing difference between them besides how poorly the goodyears are on this platform. I’ve found the lighter weight models are the most responsive and enjoyable to drive.


Just to be clear the 992 I’m talking about is a Porsche in case you confused it with a John Deere 992…in which case yes that would be a pain to turn.

repcapale

You have no idea what you are talking about.