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Old 07-20-2023, 12:51 PM
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Picking up my new GTS tomorrow at PECLA (so excited). I am going to be doing PPF (front half) and ceramic on it (along with tint). I have narrowed it down to two shops in town. Prices are fairly similar. Product is different. One is CeramicPro and one is all XPEL. It appears the XPEL guys use precut but in talking with him he said the precut is so good now you do not see any edges. Neither remove the bumper but both remove the lights.

Any suggestions on which way to go? As I said the price is very similar...
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My guy uses ceramic pro. One reason I don't see edges is that the hood and any other panels that they can, they wrap the PPF around so it finished on the back side. I wouldn't hire someone that didn't do this.
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I’d avoid having the headlights removed as it increases the chance of accidental damage.
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Everyone uses pre-cut.

There's just different levels of precut.

No one is wrapping a car, or even panels of a car, with simply one long blank sheet of PPF.

They all punch in the make, model, and year in the computer and, poof, out pops a "precut" silhouette of the body panel in question and then the detailer resizes and trims it down to fit the car in question.

As to which way to go, look at their prior work, look at some of the cars in their shop, and maybe if you have the time, ask to watch their installers at work (at least for 15-20 minutes, if not longer). That's the best way to tell who is "better" of the two.

With PPF, buy the installer, not the product.
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Originally Posted by radelow
I am going to be doing PPF (front half) and ceramic on it (along with tint). I have narrowed it down to two shops in town.
Curious - what shops are you considering?
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Xpel is like the Starbucks of PPF these days. So many better options
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Everyone uses pre-cut.

There's just different levels of precut.

No one is wrapping a car, or even panels of a car, with simply one long blank sheet of PPF.

They all punch in the make, model, and year in the computer and, poof, out pops a "precut" silhouette of the body panel in question and then the detailer resizes and trims it down to fit the car in question.

As to which way to go, look at their prior work, look at some of the cars in their shop, and maybe if you have the time, ask to watch their installers at work (at least for 15-20 minutes, if not longer). That's the best way to tell who is "better" of the two.

With PPF, buy the installer, not the product.
Bingo…pick the best installer.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Everyone uses pre-cut.

There's just different levels of precut.

No one is wrapping a car, or even panels of a car, with simply one long blank sheet of PPF.

They all punch in the make, model, and year in the computer and, poof, out pops a "precut" silhouette of the body panel in question and then the detailer resizes and trims it down to fit the car in question.

As to which way to go, look at their prior work, look at some of the cars in their shop, and maybe if you have the time, ask to watch their installers at work (at least for 15-20 minutes, if not longer). That's the best way to tell who is "better" of the two.

With PPF, buy the installer, not the product.
Thank you for your input! That was very helpful. I have done diligence on both vendors and the responses have been very good for both. Looks like I probably could go with either.
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Interested to know which shops you are considering as well.

I've had CeramicPro on my C2 for a little over 3 years, it still looks great and cleans up nicely. I don't have any experience with XPEL's competing ceramic product. I also wouldn't worry about the removal of the headlights assuming you have a competent installer.
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Removal of headlights really isn't a big deal. Neither is removal of the bumper. Both are modular and come out with relative ease after undoing some screws. Always select by installer. Look at examples of their finished work product which should have nearly no visible edge, gaps, or seams.
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Old 07-21-2023, 09:02 PM
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I'd go with who's done more 992s. My shop has had one in the bay every single time I've been there. And they did an amazing job on my car.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Everyone uses pre-cut.

There's just different levels of precut.

No one is wrapping a car, or even panels of a car, with simply one long blank sheet of PPF.

They all punch in the make, model, and year in the computer and, poof, out pops a "precut" silhouette of the body panel in question and then the detailer resizes and trims it down to fit the car in question.
With all due respect, that's just not true.

And certainly not true given my experience with Wilson and the Boys at Premier in Fremont, California applying Prestige Clear Guard Alpha on my '23 GT3 Touring.
He doesnt do "pre-cut". Not even close to being "pre-cut".

Their work is flawless.






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Impeccable craftsmanship.
No seams. Mirrors are one piece. Even the F8 Spider above which most shops use 3 pieces on.


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Originally Posted by radelow
Any suggestions on which way to go? As I said the price is very similar...
You get what you pay for and the installer is obviously key.
I had Prestige Clear Guard Nano on my 981 GT4 and I got the latest "Alpha" version on my '23 GT3 Touring.

Premier has worked on so many 992 GT3's and other Porsches that they can spot port damage and other imperfections in a heartbeat.
They've also done a ton of McLaren's, Ferrari's, and Lambo's.

My invoice for ClearGuard Alpha on everything except the rear bumper (including paint correction) was $9,845.00 before taxes.

I also had my wheels and calipers ceramic coated with Nanolex Si3d HD.
And my windows tinted at 45% with Spectra Photosyn IRD.
Hope this helps you.

Feel free to PM me for an invoice.


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Old 07-22-2023, 01:05 AM
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Any recommendations for shops in West Covina/Orange County?


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