Porsche AG - New Feature Request - Recording Roadway Cameras
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In the sincere hope that Porsche AG reads this forum, my request is for them to develop (finish developing) recording roadway cameras, utilizing the existing Surround View camera system and offer this recording roadway camera system to customers.
It is very likely that most of the effort for this system is already completed. The optional Surround View camera system already has digital video for each of the four cameras. It might already have equipment permitting recording that digital video. If not, that should be an "easy" upgrade.
The most difficult aspect of this new feature is likely the user interface. My suggestion is to NOT undertake that effort and instead just provide user access tor the microSD flash card, so it may be removed and installed into a PC computer reader.
The looped recordings on the flash card are required in the event of an accident, or if something interesting happens on the roadway or track, so the frequency of data access would likely be much less than once per month, making card removal / replacement an appropriate solution.
IMO, this feature request should be across-the-board, offered on all models, but w/ my expected upcoming order / purchase of a 992.2, my request is for that model to be first.
FWIW, the existing, optional Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam has absolutely horrible industrial design, is a severe detraction from an otherwise amazing / outstanding vehicle, should be eliminated / replaced by this proposed system and all those responsible for that abomination appropriately rewarded. I WOULD NEVER consider the existing Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam for any of my vehicles, even though it has acceptable features and functionality.
It is very likely that most of the effort for this system is already completed. The optional Surround View camera system already has digital video for each of the four cameras. It might already have equipment permitting recording that digital video. If not, that should be an "easy" upgrade.
The most difficult aspect of this new feature is likely the user interface. My suggestion is to NOT undertake that effort and instead just provide user access tor the microSD flash card, so it may be removed and installed into a PC computer reader.
The looped recordings on the flash card are required in the event of an accident, or if something interesting happens on the roadway or track, so the frequency of data access would likely be much less than once per month, making card removal / replacement an appropriate solution.
IMO, this feature request should be across-the-board, offered on all models, but w/ my expected upcoming order / purchase of a 992.2, my request is for that model to be first.
FWIW, the existing, optional Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam has absolutely horrible industrial design, is a severe detraction from an otherwise amazing / outstanding vehicle, should be eliminated / replaced by this proposed system and all those responsible for that abomination appropriately rewarded. I WOULD NEVER consider the existing Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam for any of my vehicles, even though it has acceptable features and functionality.
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No, I am not looking for anything additional to be displayed in the vehicle, just retain the existing optional Surround View display functionality, but also add operational roadway recording onto a user removable flash card to that system.
Zero interest from me for more "bells and whistles". My opinion is that roadway operational video recording has transitioned to an essential function and Porsche should provide an integrated solution.
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Sorry for my prior failure to be sufficiently clear.
No, I am not looking for anything additional to be displayed in the vehicle, just retain the existing optional Surround View display functionality, but also add operational roadway recording onto a user removable flash card to that system.
Zero interest from me for more "bells and whistles". My opinion is that roadway operational video recording has transitioned to an essential function and Porsche should provide an integrated solution.
No, I am not looking for anything additional to be displayed in the vehicle, just retain the existing optional Surround View display functionality, but also add operational roadway recording onto a user removable flash card to that system.
Zero interest from me for more "bells and whistles". My opinion is that roadway operational video recording has transitioned to an essential function and Porsche should provide an integrated solution.
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That is as an event recorder, used as documentation in an accident, or used if something else interesting is required for still or video documentation.
As an example, I just removed the flash card from my Fitcamx dash camera to assist informing the City about resolving a long-duration construction pothole by providing a still image into my latest email message showing the problem.
If others want to also define additional features, or "bells and whistles" that they'd like Porsche to include on their vehicle, then go for it.
My topic (this topic) defines an "easy" change to existing Porsche options that addresses a severe Industrial Design deficiency on their optional Dash Camera.
There is already a barely usable clunky user interface for the existing Porsche dash camera. If they want to recreate that clunky user interface for my requested system, then that is fine by me, or they can instead go the previously described "easy" route of user removable flash memory, also already available for existing dash camera systems.
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IMO, this feature request should be across-the-board, offered on all models, but w/ my expected upcoming order / purchase of a 992.2, my request is for that model to be first.
FWIW, the existing, optional Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam has absolutely horrible industrial design, is a severe detraction from an otherwise amazing / outstanding vehicle, should be eliminated / replaced by this proposed system and all those responsible for that abomination appropriately rewarded. I WOULD NEVER consider the existing Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam for any of my vehicles, even though it has acceptable features and functionality.
FWIW, the existing, optional Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam has absolutely horrible industrial design, is a severe detraction from an otherwise amazing / outstanding vehicle, should be eliminated / replaced by this proposed system and all those responsible for that abomination appropriately rewarded. I WOULD NEVER consider the existing Porsche Front / Rear Dashcam for any of my vehicles, even though it has acceptable features and functionality.
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I think the OP is asking for functionality comparable to the Performance Data Recorder (PDR) in the Corvette:
The PDR is not really a standard option on most "normal" GM cars - only the "performance"-oriented ones (Camaro, Cadillac, Corvette, etc), so this means that they were able to develop a robust in-car software UI for the PDR without being able to spread the R&D engineering cost over the entire GM product baseline. Porsche could probably do the same thing if they really wanted to (and/or borrow the excellent Virtual Cockpit software framework used in Audis), but they probably just don't care that much.
The PDR is not really a standard option on most "normal" GM cars - only the "performance"-oriented ones (Camaro, Cadillac, Corvette, etc), so this means that they were able to develop a robust in-car software UI for the PDR without being able to spread the R&D engineering cost over the entire GM product baseline. Porsche could probably do the same thing if they really wanted to (and/or borrow the excellent Virtual Cockpit software framework used in Audis), but they probably just don't care that much.
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I think the OP is asking for functionality comparable to the Performance Data Recorder (PDR) in the Corvette:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfxa...V0dGUgcGRyIGM4
The PDR is not really a standard option on most "normal" GM cars - only the "performance"-oriented ones (Camaro, Cadillac, Corvette, etc), so this means that they were able to develop a robust in-car software UI for the PDR without being able to spread the R&D engineering cost over the entire GM product baseline. Porsche could probably do the same thing if they really wanted to (and/or borrow the excellent Virtual Cockpit software framework used in Audis), but they probably just don't care that much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfxa...V0dGUgcGRyIGM4
The PDR is not really a standard option on most "normal" GM cars - only the "performance"-oriented ones (Camaro, Cadillac, Corvette, etc), so this means that they were able to develop a robust in-car software UI for the PDR without being able to spread the R&D engineering cost over the entire GM product baseline. Porsche could probably do the same thing if they really wanted to (and/or borrow the excellent Virtual Cockpit software framework used in Audis), but they probably just don't care that much.
Sorry that the words I've chosen are sooo confusing.
Again, I am just looking for simple video recording using the existing optional Surround View cameras instead of the optional visually horrible Porsche Dash Camera system.
Zero in-vehicle user interface, just like the existing optional Porsche Dash Camera system, also just like all the aftermarket dash camera systems.
Either the existing horrible / clunky Porsche Dash Camera system user interface, or zero user interface and instead user accessible flash memory card for user removal from vehicle and installation into a PC computer.
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I have no interest in this kind of functionality. Porsche respects the privacy of its owners. Given that Tesla employees were caught watching footage recorded by the cars, this one is a hard NO for me.
In case anyone has forgotten...
https://www.reuters.com/technology/t...rs-2023-04-06/
You'll never see a dashcam in my cars either. I want to enjoy my car without any kind of digital paper trail -- friendly reminder that your own dashcam can be used against you and deleting your dashcam videos can be considered spoliation of evidence.
In case anyone has forgotten...
https://www.reuters.com/technology/t...rs-2023-04-06/
You'll never see a dashcam in my cars either. I want to enjoy my car without any kind of digital paper trail -- friendly reminder that your own dashcam can be used against you and deleting your dashcam videos can be considered spoliation of evidence.
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Every single existing dash camera system, including the optional system offered by Porsche, is 100% offline, only with local flash memory storage. My request has been / remains for continuing w/ only offline storage, just like every other existing system.
For oh so many years I longed for retirement, when I could FINALLY discard my paid subscription tracking device / continuous monitoring device (commonly known as a smart phone). Since my retirement I've concluded that remaining in contact w/ the children, plus the navigation maps functionality are currently too essential for me to step away from that technology. I also do LOTS of Sirius radio through the smart phone.
Cheers to you for being able to live off the grid. (How were you able to reply to this thread though?)
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Nope, not interested in that, even though it looks waaay cool and waaay over-the-top.
Sorry that the words I've chosen are sooo confusing.
Again, I am just looking for simple video recording using the existing optional Surround View cameras instead of the optional visually horrible Porsche Dash Camera system.
Zero in-vehicle user interface, just like the existing optional Porsche Dash Camera system, also just like all the aftermarket dash camera systems.
Either the existing horrible / clunky Porsche Dash Camera system user interface, or zero user interface and instead user accessible flash memory card for user removal from vehicle and installation into a PC computer.
Sorry that the words I've chosen are sooo confusing.
Again, I am just looking for simple video recording using the existing optional Surround View cameras instead of the optional visually horrible Porsche Dash Camera system.
Zero in-vehicle user interface, just like the existing optional Porsche Dash Camera system, also just like all the aftermarket dash camera systems.
Either the existing horrible / clunky Porsche Dash Camera system user interface, or zero user interface and instead user accessible flash memory card for user removal from vehicle and installation into a PC computer.
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Totally agree @detansinn , we have enough cameras recording us in our daily lives as it is. But this is RL where everyone that has a dashcam never speeds, never breaks any traffic laws and is never the cause of any accidents. The dashcam will magically only record others at fault.
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