992 GTS with PASM (Raised 10MM)
02-18-2023, 02:56 AM
#16
If you're going to pass on it, and it's at MSRP, can you share the details privately lol?
I'll take the raised 10mm on my GTS and see how many people actually notice. Then I'll trade it in.
I'll take the raised 10mm on my GTS and see how many people actually notice. Then I'll trade it in.
Last edited by itrocks4u; 02-18-2023 at 04:02 AM.
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Rubystar (03-10-2024)
02-18-2023, 03:26 AM
#17
Burning Brakes
A PASM spec is not raised 10mm. SPASM lowers it 10mm. And for daily driving it's a nice option. All this talk about it looking like a 4x4 or making the car undesirable is IMO total nonsense unless you're looking for a track day car.
Last edited by remington; 02-18-2023 at 11:44 AM.
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02-18-2023, 03:34 AM
#18
I compared two cars back to back in the dealership and definitely noticed a difference in looks. After that I happened to only see a bunch of SPASM cars for a while and once I came across a PASM car it was very noticeable. However before all that every 992 looked exactly the same…
02-18-2023, 05:45 AM
#19
As far as I know:
taking optional PASM as 0$ option over Spasm (thats regular and comes standard on GTS models) DOES NOT CHANGE the ride height on the car.
Spasm on GTS is -10mm normally to regular height, PASM lowers the car by the same amount if you take it as an option on s/4s.
The only difference comes from the stiffness of the chasis or springs, SPASM gives you the same stiffness as turbo, while taking PASM makes the car ride a bit softer, same as s/4s as with -10mm PASM.
I might be wrong thou, but I've done some research on that and that was the conclusion.
There was a full table that was showing how stiff each chasis/springs are for each model, but I cant find it unfortunatetly. Maybe someone else can post it, or you can find it yourself.
and to sum it up, unless you plan to hardcore track the car I would always go with optional PASM over SPASM on GTS.
btw, one more thing to add - GTS look lower since they come fitted with sport design package that also lowers the car front by ~1cm (it even says when you pick it as option 'this option lowers the front angle of the car' or something similiar'.
taking optional PASM as 0$ option over Spasm (thats regular and comes standard on GTS models) DOES NOT CHANGE the ride height on the car.
Spasm on GTS is -10mm normally to regular height, PASM lowers the car by the same amount if you take it as an option on s/4s.
The only difference comes from the stiffness of the chasis or springs, SPASM gives you the same stiffness as turbo, while taking PASM makes the car ride a bit softer, same as s/4s as with -10mm PASM.
I might be wrong thou, but I've done some research on that and that was the conclusion.
There was a full table that was showing how stiff each chasis/springs are for each model, but I cant find it unfortunatetly. Maybe someone else can post it, or you can find it yourself.
and to sum it up, unless you plan to hardcore track the car I would always go with optional PASM over SPASM on GTS.
btw, one more thing to add - GTS look lower since they come fitted with sport design package that also lowers the car front by ~1cm (it even says when you pick it as option 'this option lowers the front angle of the car' or something similiar'.
Last edited by Defrag; 02-18-2023 at 05:51 AM. Reason: added info
02-18-2023, 08:22 AM
#20
Three Wheelin'
Last edited by CanAutM3; 02-18-2023 at 08:29 AM.
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02-18-2023, 08:27 AM
#21
Three Wheelin'
As far as I know:
taking optional PASM as 0$ option over Spasm (thats regular and comes standard on GTS models) DOES NOT CHANGE the ride height on the car.
Spasm on GTS is -10mm normally to regular height, PASM lowers the car by the same amount if you take it as an option on s/4s.
The only difference comes from the stiffness of the chasis or springs, SPASM gives you the same stiffness as turbo, while taking PASM makes the car ride a bit softer, same as s/4s as with -10mm PASM.
I might be wrong thou, but I've done some research on that and that was the conclusion.
There was a full table that was showing how stiff each chasis/springs are for each model, but I cant find it unfortunatetly. Maybe someone else can post it, or you can find it yourself.
and to sum it up, unless you plan to hardcore track the car I would always go with optional PASM over SPASM on GTS.
btw, one more thing to add - GTS look lower since they come fitted with sport design package that also lowers the car front by ~1cm (it even says when you pick it as option 'this option lowers the front angle of the car' or something similiar'.
taking optional PASM as 0$ option over Spasm (thats regular and comes standard on GTS models) DOES NOT CHANGE the ride height on the car.
Spasm on GTS is -10mm normally to regular height, PASM lowers the car by the same amount if you take it as an option on s/4s.
The only difference comes from the stiffness of the chasis or springs, SPASM gives you the same stiffness as turbo, while taking PASM makes the car ride a bit softer, same as s/4s as with -10mm PASM.
I might be wrong thou, but I've done some research on that and that was the conclusion.
There was a full table that was showing how stiff each chasis/springs are for each model, but I cant find it unfortunatetly. Maybe someone else can post it, or you can find it yourself.
and to sum it up, unless you plan to hardcore track the car I would always go with optional PASM over SPASM on GTS.
btw, one more thing to add - GTS look lower since they come fitted with sport design package that also lowers the car front by ~1cm (it even says when you pick it as option 'this option lowers the front angle of the car' or something similiar'.
02-18-2023, 11:41 AM
#22
Thank you all sharing your perspectives. Really helpful. I appreciate the different views! If I had my choice, I would probably take the GTS standard suspension as I appreciate the suspension setup is part of the GTS config/concept, but given that it is for a daily driver and the rest of the spec is really perfect, I'm included to do it. Last question - I would really appreciate hearing from somebody who actually has the GTS with the raised 10mm suspension on their impressions/any regrets. Thanks everybody.
02-18-2023, 12:39 PM
#23
C4GTS (with PASM) owner here. Ordered the car in Feb 2022, took delivery in Nov 2022. Originally wanted a 992 C4S to replace my 997 C4S, which I still love, but could only get an allocation for the GTS. I chose PASM given that (A) the car is a daily, and (B) I’m a weekend canyon carver, but don’t track.
After 3 months and about 2200 miles, I can report that I’m very satisfied with my choice of suspension. Very comfortable during commute, but still incredibly planted in the twisties. No regrets whatsoever.
After 3 months and about 2200 miles, I can report that I’m very satisfied with my choice of suspension. Very comfortable during commute, but still incredibly planted in the twisties. No regrets whatsoever.
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02-18-2023, 12:55 PM
#24
C4GTS (with PASM) owner here. Ordered the car in Feb 2022, took delivery in Nov 2022. Originally wanted a 992 C4S to replace my 997 C4S, which I still love, but could only get an allocation for the GTS. I chose PASM given that (A) the car is a daily, and (B) I’m a weekend canyon carver, but don’t track.
After 3 months and about 2200 miles, I can report that I’m very satisfied with my choice of suspension. Very comfortable during commute, but still incredibly planted in the twisties. No regrets whatsoever.
After 3 months and about 2200 miles, I can report that I’m very satisfied with my choice of suspension. Very comfortable during commute, but still incredibly planted in the twisties. No regrets whatsoever.
02-18-2023, 01:51 PM
#25
Rennlist Member
I had 2019 991.2 GTS with standard PASM. It was my daily driver in LA , I wanted a more comfortable ride, and I'm not a track guy. Before I ordered I drove both a GTS with SPASM and one with PASM (this was back in the days when dealers actually had cars!!). There is a noticeable difference in the ride - the SPASM car is definitely harsher on poor roads. I'm going to order a 24 GTS and I will definitely get the standard PASM again - for me it's a no brainer.
02-18-2023, 01:55 PM
#26
I have a C2S with Sport PASM and RAS (no PDCC) and an area with not great roads, and no ride issues. The idea that Sport PASM is significantly or really noticeably harsher than regular PASM gets blown out of proportion here too often. Sport PASM in Normal (not Sport) mode is a very nice ride. Just don't put your tires at a factory 48 PSI setting, as that will kill just about any ride.
02-18-2023, 03:10 PM
#27
Three Wheelin'
S-PASM is not switchable per se, it's always "ON" because it's physical hardware that makes the difference (stiffer springs and sway bars). Not to be confused with the Normal and Sport modes can be selected with either the normal PASM or S-PASM options..
Last edited by CanAutM3; 02-18-2023 at 03:13 PM.
02-18-2023, 03:33 PM
#28
The Targa GTS is also delivered with the PASM as standard and it is not even possible to choose the SPASM. The comments here that a GTS without SPASM is no longer a real GTS are just nonsense. If you plan to use the GTS as a daily driver, then this is the perfect choice.
There were already a few comments here in the forum - even two GTS were placed next to each other in the showroom (one with PASM and one with SPASM) and one forum member puzzled with the sales assistant about which is the 10 mm lower one. Neither of them could tell the difference.
There were already a few comments here in the forum - even two GTS were placed next to each other in the showroom (one with PASM and one with SPASM) and one forum member puzzled with the sales assistant about which is the 10 mm lower one. Neither of them could tell the difference.
Last edited by Zetta; 02-18-2023 at 03:34 PM.
02-18-2023, 04:57 PM
#29
Can’t tell all that much when switched sport vs normal
02-19-2023, 01:43 PM
#30
(I kid I kid)