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Old 02-15-2023, 09:41 AM
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Does anyone have this tune with the warranty option?

How do you like it?

How does it compare to other tuners like M-Engineering in terms of technical features?
Old 02-15-2023, 01:06 PM
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Read the small print. Lots of exceptions there.
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Originally Posted by John Mclane
Read the small print. Lots of exceptions there.
I did, but I also want to hear personal experiences as well. What’s on the fine print sometimes doesn’t necessarily equate to real world experience.
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Let me ask you something. Would you sell a product for $2,400 where your liability is $83k?
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If they don’t find a way to weasel out of it I am sure the coverage won’t be enough to cover a long block from Porsche at over 80k.
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Originally Posted by srf409
What are the real chances of anyone lunching a Porsche engine with a relatively conservative tune from a known reputable tuner/vendor especially with a vehicle that is run on the street and not hammered every weekend on a racetrack.
There are unfortunately many guys out there who believe that their $150,000 911 engine is running at the edge from the factory and are timid about aftermarket calibrations for that reason. 911 motors are NOT fragile and can take far more than what some 911 owners would ever guess.
Probably a good idea not to go the tuning route if you are looking absolute guarantees. You will find this advice in many of these tuning threads that generally do not end well.
If there were no concerns, why not sell an insurance policy for $1k that covers the total cost of engine failure as a result of usage while the tune is installed without 30 pages of legalese? I think a lot of people are looking for absolutes as Porsche is absolutely not covering an engine with an aftermarket tune.
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Originally Posted by srf409
What are the real chances of anyone lunching a Porsche engine with a relatively conservative tune from a known reputable tuner/vendor especially with a vehicle that is run on the street and not hammered every weekend on a racetrack.
There are unfortunately many guys out there who believe that their $150,000 911 engine is running at the edge from the factory and are timid about aftermarket calibrations for that reason. 911 motors are NOT fragile and can take far more than what some 911 owners would ever guess.
Probably a good idea not to go the tuning route if you are looking absolute guarantees. You will find this advice in many of these tuning threads that generally do not end well.
From my own real-life experience, the concern is not necessarily about the tune blowing the engine...its about giving the service/dealer/manufacturer a simple reason to deny any warranty work or in my case rejecting any service/work to be done on the car. I know, I know there are laws prohibiting that (magnussen act or so) - theoretically. Real life is just different when you try to enforce it.

But to the OP topics - I don't have the APR tune but know people who do on 991 and 992 and are very happy with it. Only caveat is I think they still require you to go to your APR rep to install/remove the tune when needed.
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Originally Posted by Purekoryo
Does anyone have this tune with the warranty option?

How do you like it?

How does it compare to other tuners like M-Engineering in terms of technical features?
They are cheaper...that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by Tobeit
From my own real-life experience, the concern is not necessarily about the tune blowing the engine...its about giving the service/dealer/manufacturer a simple reason to deny any warranty work or in my case rejecting any service/work to be done on the car. I know, I know there are laws prohibiting that (magnussen act or so) - theoretically. Real life is just different when you try to enforce it.
You have no idea how much spot in you are...
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Let me ask you something. Would you sell a product for $2,400 where your liability is $83k?
Same reason your auto insurance company will insure a $150K+ Porsche for $2500 or something like that....there is an insurance cost built into the price of that tune. Their warranty terms and conditions are actually pretty reasonable.

https://www.goaprplus.com/includes/d...ty_booklet.pdf

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Originally Posted by Tobeit
From my own real-life experience, the concern is not necessarily about the tune blowing the engine...its about giving the service/dealer/manufacturer a simple reason to deny any warranty work or in my case rejecting any service/work to be done on the car. I know, I know there are laws prohibiting that (magnussen act or so) - theoretically. Real life is just different when you try to enforce it.

But to the OP topics - I don't have the APR tune but know people who do on 991 and 992 and are very happy with it. Only caveat is I think they still require you to go to your APR rep to install/remove the tune when needed.
Thanks for that feedback. That's all I was looking for. I've modded, tuned (myself with standalone ecus), etc. on 30+ cars before so I realize the consequences, risks, etc. All I was asking for was experience with this tune as some aren't perfect and may have hiccups, especially the first couple of revisions (boost spikes, throttle closing, etc.).
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Sorry to revive a dead thread. From the booklet it seems fuel injectors which is a known weakness on 992 are NOT covered by APR PLUS Warranty.



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