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Old Feb 8, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pk27
You're driving a base regardless, T/S/GTS are all base 911s with different trims.
hahaha!!! At what point in the 911 range, is it not a base 911? GT3? Turbo? Turbo S? GT2RS?
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Old Feb 8, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Quikag
hahaha!!! At what point in the 911 range, is it not a base 911? GT3? Turbo? Turbo S? GT2RS?
Carreras, no matter what the trim, are in no way comparable to any TTS or GT car and I say that as a C2S owner.

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Old Feb 8, 2023 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Quikag
hahaha!!! At what point in the 911 range, is it not a base 911? GT3? Turbo? Turbo S? GT2RS?
I am so sick of hearing the word BASE lol... I dont remember what car reviewer it was (Maybe Doug DeMuro) who said "When I was in high school, base referred to the Boxster... EVERY 911 was COOL"
Calling the car "base" seems to have morphed into a weird way for those who don't drive the regular Carrera (or a Porsche at all for that matter) to make those that do almost feel bad about it. It almost never seems to be said in a tone that means the "standard" 911, its always said with the tone of "cheap/slow" 911.
I for one LOVE the C2 and can't wait for my 992T to be built in 3 weeks.
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Old Feb 8, 2023 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pk27
Carreras, no matter what the trim, are in no way comparable to any TTS or GT car and I say that as a C2S owner.
Okay, cool. Thank you for sharing your opinion.

I've had a 981 GT4, 991.2 GT3, and now my 992 GTS and they all kick a** in their own special way. Alignment and Cup 2R's on the 992 GTS and it'll put a hurt on a any non-RS 991 or earlier GT3 on the track while having a back seat and being more comfortable around town and on the highway.

The cool thing about so many 911 variations is each person can find the model that suits their needs and wants the best. To delineate between the models and draw a subjective line on what is "base" and "non-base" is elitist and inane IMHO. To each their own though.

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Originally Posted by shrimp money
You buy a T when you can’t afford a GTS, but don’t want to say you have a base.

The argument of not being able to utilize the performance difference on the street is just dumb.

No one buys a a 720s and says all I really need is a BRZ.
My GT3 and incoming T cost more than any one GTS. I most certainly do not want a GTS but really want a T. Actually, my 992T is a placeholder for a used 991T that I'm still looking for. You know what they say about assumptions...
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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by avid
My GT3 and incoming T cost more than any one GTS. I most certainly do not want a GTS but really want a T. Actually, my 992T is a placeholder for a used 991T that I'm still looking for. You know what they say about assumptions...


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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
You buy a T when you can’t afford a GTS, but don’t want to say you have a base.
What in the hell makes you think I can even afford a Carrera T?
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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Humbucker427
What in the hell makes you think I can even afford a Carrera T?
Leverage, it’s the American way 🙌
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Most opinions are based on ego posturing. I chose a T but I could afford any car I want, and for a while I did just that. Ferraris, multiple 911s, etc. but the truth is I am bored by most modern cars. They are too good and competent on the street, and even track focused cars like the GTs are a compromise once you do enough track days. You need a clubsport for that. I think most have to get the exotic car itch out of their system though, once you do you see things in a different context.

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Old Feb 9, 2023 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
🔥Hot Take: if you can’t afford a GTS you should not be looking at a T.

A T is a “slower car is funner” kind of car. Also, a T or a GTS are interchangeable for me to a degree.

Personally I would like a reasonable suspension for the street. Since I am getting a manual I doubt I’ll be able to appreciate the larger turbos on the GTS and may appreciate the slightly quicker response from the smaller turbos. But on the flip side when is a little bit more power a bad thing?!

I would take either allocation frankly. It’s a toss up. A regular Tesla Model 3 sitting in traffic next to is going to leave both manual 911’s in the rear view mirror from a launch anyway.

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Originally Posted by A Nonce
A T is a “slower car is funner” kind of car.

I would take either allocation frankly. It’s a toss up.
That's exactly how I felt, and the T allocation came up first. 👍
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Originally Posted by Humbucker427
That's exactly how I felt, and the T allocation came up first. 👍
I think you’ll be happy with it. They’re all the same when you’re sitting in traffic.
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
I think you’ll be happy with it. They’re all the same when you’re sitting in traffic.
Fortunately for me there's literally no traffic between me and the mountains. If it's a weekend I *might* pass three cars before I hit the twisties.
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New to 992 world so I'm not following.

GTS with more torque and power will be far more fun to drive than perhaps a T. Not saying push the limit but even in day to day I'm certain you would feel a difference. Isn't this similar to buying M340ix or M3 Compx? Both are equally capable cars on the street but M significantly feels better than M340ix.

I'm buying T with PDK and rear seats. I specced C2 with sports exhaust and chrono as well as T. Both eventually are at the same price point with T maybe benefiting from lower suspension, light weight glass and that's it. I couldn't get a S or C2 allocation (intentionally avoiding the use of the "word" base here).
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Originally Posted by itrocks4u
New to 992 world so I'm not following.

GTS with more torque and power will be far more fun to drive than perhaps a T. Not saying push the limit but even in day to day I'm certain you would feel a difference. Isn't this similar to buying M340ix or M3 Compx? Both are equally capable cars on the street but M significantly feels better than M340ix.

I'm buying T with PDK and rear seats. I specced C2 with sports exhaust and chrono as well as T. Both eventually are at the same price point with T maybe benefiting from lower suspension, light weight glass and that's it. I couldn't get a S or C2 allocation (intentionally avoiding the use of the "word" base here).
I think the difference between this scenario and the BMW one is that with the 992T, you basically have the exact same performance setup for suspension (minus the helper spring). same weight reduction and shift mechanism/gear ratios etc... but a drop in HP. Given that the 992 platform is sooo capable in all trim levels, most on here are just pointing out that the performance setup on the T makes it a very compelling buy vs a GTS at nearly +$25K... A 340 vs. M3 is a really big jump and you arent just gaining power, you gain a lot more engineering, suspension, weight saving, etc... which in this case is all baked into the T, minus some extra horespower that might not really add to daily road driving performance... or at least you will be able to push the T harder and longer on the street vs the GTS which might just get you to those unreasonable speeds quicker and in a "less enjoyable" way.
GTS is certainly going to be "faster"... but the actual feel and performance of the two cars is likely going to be VERY similar minus about 0.3 seconds to 60mph. which I dont think is worth $25K
*Appreciate your C2 usage haha

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