porsche1234

you must have missed the part of my quote that mentioned I beat all the Miata’s and spec boxters at my local race track. I’m a good driver and I’d rather drive my 992 on the track than a sh** box slow car that I can’t even drive home. Somehow, every time I go to the track I see 911’s, cayman gt4’s, bmw m2’s, m4’s etc that are driven to and from the track on a weekly basis. Do you go to a broke track or something? I’m a member at the local track so I can go every week. The 911’s are meant to be tracked not babied. All i said was I don’t want PCCB’s because I’m not paying 10k a month in brakes since I track so often.

drcollie

True that. I aspired years ago to get a Club Racer or SCCA classed car, because at my local track (Summit Point WV) I could put down good and consistent hot laps in my '95 M3 I had set up for track duty with modified suspension, brakes, roll bar, harnesses, etc.

Then Boris Said came to the track one day I think it was in 1997 or 1998, when he was a BMW Motorsport Factory Driver, the cars were being built in Winchester VA which was only 30 minutes away from the track (He told me Summit Point was a "rat" track and he hated it). But we got to talking and I asked him to take me out for some hot laps, which he obliged. He was SO FAST....I could not believe it. No mistakes, every lap within a tenth or two of the prior one. In my car he bested my lap times by 3 to 4 seconds, every lap. I had a similar experience with Bill Auberlen, another BMW Factory Driver at New Hampshire International Speedway in 1999. Then another with Hans Stuck at Indianapolis. Those ride-alongs with the pros really open your eyes. I learned I was not professional caliber and was unlikely to get to that point. Like you said, an exercise in humility. Now when I do events, I try to focus on one thing the factory racer types tell me to focus on.. Last December at Thermal it was my turn-in positioning, I was not holding to the outside long enough on turn in and they wanted me to get another 10" to 12" to the pavement edge. I worked all day on that!

drcollie

Are you still here?

GeneTakovic

Yes, it didn’t take long for this thread to get a little loose.

Wilder

I personally want to encourage you to purchase a new T and use it for dual purpose, tracking it every week as you said. Please be sure to start a thread where we can all follow along in your journey.

remington

I agree with previous comments that if you're tracking every week you should look into a track car. Don't compromise your daily to the point that it's a track day car.

ipse dixit

@porsche1234 My friend, your posts are so cringe worthy.

Even if they are true, a bit of humility never hurts anyone.

You'd get more positive feedback and less blowback if you took a big humble pill before posting again

Enjoy your weekly track session this weekend.

ipse dixit

I'm out at Thermal (the racetrack not BMW Performance Center) almost every month.

My instructor is a member there, and the talent at Thermal can humble even the most skilled of drivers.

Dan006

a proverb says: you reap what you sow... apparently this gentleman still has to learn. you are right in your post.

CanAutM3

As with many other things, it depends...

I've also been tracking cars for some 30 odd years, I took on instructing at HPDEs about 15-years ago after I gave up on doing competitive events. I don't see any "folly in tracking expensive cars". I do 20~25 track days per season and tracked BMW M3/4 for 20 years (all purchased new) and I've been tracking my 992 for the last two. After many years of running modified track cars, I appreciate the peace of mind that comes with the reliability and warranty coverage of a new car. I also very much enjoy the concept of one car that does it all, my 992 is both my 4-season daily driver as well as my track toy. And the track is really the only responsible place to fully appreciate the full performance potential of these machines. I've always said that consumable costs are inversely proportional to lap times: the faster you are, regardless if it is because of your driving skill or because of the car you drive, the more expensive it gets. Interestingly though, the consumable costs of running my 992TT is barely more than my previous M4cs despite being a almost 5 sec a lap faster. These cars are bloody well built for performance (track) driving. All that to say that I see nothing wrong with regularly tracking a 992. To each their own.

And you are absolutely right about the learning part, and it is probably a key reason why I am still tracking, because I keep on learning

aggie57

Or try and compete with really good drivers at a rental go-kart track. You know, the ones with 10hp gas engines and centrifugal clutches. Then we learn how slow we really are.

justcor