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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 08:40 PM
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Hope you guys secure your deals now. Bitcoin is up 44% in the past month, and equities are on the rise.
More importantly, how's the shrimp market doing these days?
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
More importantly, how's the shrimp market doing these days?
Mighty fine.



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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
More importantly, how's the shrimp market doing these days?

My volumes are more than January 2021 and January 2022 so far. Americans might be broke, but they still aren’t willing to cook for themselves.
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Hope you guys secure your deals now. Bitcoin is up 44% in the past month, and equities are on the rise.


Don’t want to hear complaints when spring arrives and the buying frenzy begins about how you still can’t get a car because ADMs are back.
Very true, the Fed tossed in the towel today and these bubbles are all coming back - especially crypto.
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 09:45 PM
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Man, I wish I truly felt I could address this. I’m kinda stuck, I pre-traded my car and I’m in the hole on that front. So leverage is in the dealer’s corner I feel. I agreed to 15k on my GTS back in Oct (due here in a month), and I somewhat justified it given half of the ADM was “covered” by my above market exit on my ‘22 RS7. I have signed bill of sale docs with the 15k, so if I even attempted a negotiation I feel like I’d be shown the door. It’s a crapshoot for sure, but I’m in the Dallas market and I feel like someone would step in behind me for sure. May not be their first call to arms, but they’d find a buyer. In the end I’m not in a position to walk away, but financially between the adventitious trade and potential price increase at this point (assuming I’d go to 2024 at MSRP) I feel like it is what it is. Apologies for the logic rambling, but that’s where I’m at personally. Yes, I dug my own hole I’m aware…but pardon my French, F it as this point. Car is almost here and let the enjoyment reign.

Edit: I will say however, which is likely counter to my above situation, the fact I was 6th in line and I was able to negotiate the ADM to 15k I think is a sign. Even at 15k I was also still told I wouldn’t see a car for 18 mos, but when the call came people in front of me clearly passed on ADM. So clearly things were moving even back in Oct regarding who was and who wasn’t willing to pay ADM. In the end you do what you think is right for you.

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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasIowan
Man, I wish I truly felt I could address this. I’m kinda stuck, I pre-traded my car and I’m in the hole on that front. So leverage is in the dealer’s corner I feel. I agreed to 15k on my GTS back in Oct (due here in a month), and I somewhat justified it given half of the ADM was “covered” by my above market exit on my ‘22 RS7. I have signed bill of sale docs with the 15k, so if I even attempted a negotiation I feel like I’d be shown the door. It’s a crapshoot for sure, but I’m in the Dallas market and I feel like someone would step in behind me for sure. May not be their first call to arms, but they’d find a buyer. In the end I’m not in a position to walk away, but financially between the adventitious trade and potential price increase at this point (assuming I’d go to 2024 at MSRP) I feel like it is what it is. Apologies for the logic rambling, but that’s where I’m at personally. Yes, I dug my own hole I’m aware…but pardon my French, F it as this point. Car is almost here and let the enjoyment reign.
Do you have a check already from pre-trading your old car?
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasIowan
Man, I wish I truly felt I could address this. I’m kinda stuck, I pre-traded my car and I’m in the hole on that front. So leverage is in the dealer’s corner I feel. I agreed to 15k on my GTS back in Oct (due here in a month), and I somewhat justified it given half of the ADM was “covered” by my above market exit on my ‘22 RS7. I have signed bill of sale docs with the 15k, so if I even attempted a negotiation I feel like I’d be shown the door. It’s a crapshoot for sure, but I’m in the Dallas market and I feel like someone would step in behind me for sure. May not be their first call to arms, but they’d find a buyer. In the end I’m not in a position to walk away, but financially between the adventitious trade and potential price increase at this point (assuming I’d go to 2024 at MSRP) I feel like it is what it is. Apologies for the logic rambling, but that’s where I’m at personally. Yes, I dug my own hole I’m aware…but pardon my French, F it as this point. Car is almost here and let the enjoyment reign.
F it and enjoy!
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Do you have a check already from pre-trading your old car?
Yep, proceeds in the bank for months.
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:10 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasIowan
Yep, proceeds in the bank for months.
Im not very smart, but what’s the issue? Are you thinking you’re no longer up for paying $15k ADM? If so, just tell them, or say your finances have changed where you’re no longer able to purchase the vehicle.
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:17 PM
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Im not very smart, but what’s the issue? Are you thinking you’re no longer up for paying $15k ADM? If so, just tell them, or say your finances have changed where you’re no longer able to purchase the vehicle.
No, this SOB is coming home with me. Just this discussion about trying to change the terms of a deal is what prompted by post. Oh well, back to drinking bourbon here in frozen Dallas!
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasIowan
Man, I wish I truly felt I could address this. I’m kinda stuck, I pre-traded my car and I’m in the hole on that front. So leverage is in the dealer’s corner I feel. I agreed to 15k on my GTS back in Oct (due here in a month), and I somewhat justified it given half of the ADM was “covered” by my above market exit on my ‘22 RS7. I have signed bill of sale docs with the 15k, so if I even attempted a negotiation I feel like I’d be shown the door. It’s a crapshoot for sure, but I’m in the Dallas market and I feel like someone would step in behind me for sure. May not be their first call to arms, but they’d find a buyer. In the end I’m not in a position to walk away, but financially between the adventitious trade and potential price increase at this point (assuming I’d go to 2024 at MSRP) I feel like it is what it is. Apologies for the logic rambling, but that’s where I’m at personally. Yes, I dug my own hole I’m aware…but pardon my French, F it as this point. Car is almost here and let the enjoyment reign.

Edit: I will say however, which is likely counter to my above situation, the fact I was 6th in line and I was able to negotiate the ADM to 15k I think is a sign. Even at 15k I was also still told I wouldn’t see a car for 18 mos, but when the call came people in front of me clearly passed on ADM. So clearly things were moving even back in Oct regarding who was and who wasn’t willing to pay ADM. In the end you do what you think is right for you.
Very similar to my situation. Waiting, waiting, waiting for a allocation in 2022. Most dealers told me 1-2 year wait for C2S.....Finally got a call on 9-10-22. ADM of $15K to order NOW and build exactly as I want, gotta act right now or they call next guy and need $5K deposit. I'm in!

Timeline:
Order created 9-14-22
Order scheduled for production 10-31-22
Vehicle produced 12-12-22
Vehicle arrives at dealer on 1-26-23
Picked up and shifting gears 1-30-23

TYD was right on target for me.

Did not even attempt to change ADM.

Two hour ride home in my new 911S created to my exact specifications, without waiting TWO years.......Priceless......Done forgot all about that $15K.....Life is short, enjoy your ride!

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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 03:25 PM
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Was this written by AI? (really) It's almost not readable.

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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shambler
Was this written by AI? (really) It's almost not readable.
you beat me to it.
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