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Old 10-24-2022, 12:58 AM
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Hi there

Is there any modifications I can do to a Carrera S to make it feel tighter in the steering? (aside from going 95).

Thanks a lot.
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What do you mean by "tighter"?
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Does your car have power steering plus? If so, you might be able to convince your dealership to remove it via coding to make steering at lower speeds feel heavier.
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Not sure what you mean by tighten either. The 992 stock setup is not loose. It's accurate with decent feedback.

Typically, you can install mono ball control arms or harder control arm/A arm bushes to provide a more direct feel along with more aggressive alignment flexibility. That is not an option for the 992 platform, that I am aware of anyway.

You could get the car aligned, as it is, with more aggressive caster, which will improve tracking and increase steering effort a bit.

Like pacent posted - you could get rid of PS+, assuming your issue is at very low speeds.

You may want to check your tire pressures. They may be sky high.

If your steering is feeling excessive sloppy or loose, then something is damaged.
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There is no caster adjustment on the 992 C. My 991.1 GTS felt much more connected, better feedback and more return to center force than the 992. They have numbed it up because people want luxury. Maybe stiffer ball joints, etc would help?

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One of the big reasons I opted for a 4S (even living in California) is for the tighter, heftier steering feel. Worth every extra cent + the opportunity cost of not being able to get as tail happy as an S. For me at least.
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Originally Posted by 991.1 Guy
There is no caster adjustment on the 992 C. My 991.1 GTS felt much more connected, better feedback and more return to center force than the 992. They have numbed it up because people want luxury. Maybe stiffer ball joints, etc would help?
Good point. You can use adjustable top mounts to adjust caster at the strut. But I'm not sure those are available on the 992 short of getting fancy coilovers.

I don't think ball joints are available either - didn't see anything on Tarrett's website anyway. Very few (if any) suspension upgrades are out there for this platform yet.

I will say that heavier steering ≠ better steering. My GT3 has lighter steering than my TTS had. Doesn't mean the TTS has better steering (obviously on the contrary).
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
What do you mean by "tighter"?
Thank you. I meant just a heavier go-cart feel, more connected. Less steering wheel play.
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Originally Posted by SkipFontaine22
Thank you. I meant just a heavier go-cart feel, more connected. Less steering wheel play.
check the negative camber see if you can get -1.5 and check the toe go for zero. That’ll sharpen up the steering I did that on the 992 I had makes a difference. Carl
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Easiest way to increase steering responsiveness is by reducing the tow on the front and rear wheels. Find out the current values and reduce from there in steps. Stock tow range is Front: -.03’ to .07’ Rear .10’ to .30’

The other key factor effecting responsiveness is tire sidewall stiffness. Steering feel on my C2S is transformed with stiffer sidewall Goodyear SuperCar 3 tires on 19/20” for track use. Bumpy highways require both hands on the wheel but stable at 160 mph on track with RWS & PDCC. Also if you have RWS make sure the tech energizes RWS during alignment.
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Originally Posted by SkipFontaine22
Thank you. I meant just a heavier go-cart feel, more connected. Less steering wheel play.
???

I find no play in my steering wheel at all.

Heavier steering feel ... well wider and stickier tires and 0 camber will make the steering feel "heavier" ... or you could just disconnect the fuse for power steering.
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Put more air in your tires (seriously) to make it feel more responsive.
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Originally Posted by SkipFontaine22
Thank you. I meant just a heavier go-cart feel, more connected. Less steering wheel play.
What is your previous car? Frame of reference is important.

Try putting Cup2s on the the car. You might be surprised at the difference - those tires have much stiffer sidewalls and excellent turn in.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
???

I find no play in my steering wheel at all.
+1. I actually commented on this to my husband the other day, how relatively small wheel movements almost feel overrepresented at highway speeds. Two factors I suspect were at play: 1) I recently switched from the factory Goodyears to Michelin PS4S and 2) at the time I hadn't lowered my tire pressures back to the comfort pressure level, since the dealer filled them up to the door sill pressures.

Try the full load comfort pressures (I believe that's 33F/38R), or even the door sill pressures that are essentially only recommended for fuel economy purposes (37F/45R?) and you might find the wheel to be more taut. But even at my current 30F/33R with PS4S I find the steering to be extremely responsive with no play whatsoever, so I wonder if something else is wrong... If you want to really experience a steering wheel with some play, try driving a pickup truck some time. In my grandfather's F-150 there's a solid 10º of play in either direction where I can rapidly wiggle the wheel and the truck just keeps going straight, with not even an upset chassis to show for it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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BMW has a button u can push to firm up steering.


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