Wait times for Carrera S?
04-26-2023, 10:37 PM
#31
It will likely be easier to get a GTS allocation. I wanted an S and couldn't get one so ended up with a GTS (which I'm very happy about).
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04-26-2023, 11:05 PM
#32
I had an S allocation but switched to a T when an allocation came in. I think you can’t really go wrong with any of these variants. Not sure why GTS allocations are easier to get than an S. In earlier generations it was the opposite.
04-26-2023, 11:47 PM
#33
Higher profit margin on the GTS I guess... They have a fixed capacity of cars they can build so let's make more of the high margin ones...
05-01-2023, 05:59 PM
#34
My C2S cab purchase was confirmed 8/21. I was 4th on their list for an "S" at that time. Was in no rush so just waited it out.
Dealer finally got the allocation and placed my order 2/23 as promised. Car just left port arriving in 2 weeks. Was told they only received 2 C2S's in 22 and 2 in '23 (of which I received 1).
Here's a fun pic of it in the build process. Beyond excited!
Dealer finally got the allocation and placed my order 2/23 as promised. Car just left port arriving in 2 weeks. Was told they only received 2 C2S's in 22 and 2 in '23 (of which I received 1).
Here's a fun pic of it in the build process. Beyond excited!
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05-02-2023, 10:40 AM
#35
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I left a deposit in January, 2022. My car arrived in March, 2023. It was probably the typical year wait that everyone speaks about on this forum. For what it's worth, if I had to do it over, I'd leave a deposit again and wait another year for delivery. Among the many surreal moments at delivery was looking at the odometer and seeing only 13 miles on it. There wasn't a questionable previous buyer history nor were there concerns about how it had been treated. It is my 911S. One of one and built precisely as I wanted it.
It's worth the wait and while you're waiting, you can invest the money and watch it (hopefully) grow over the next year.
Good luck!
It's worth the wait and while you're waiting, you can invest the money and watch it (hopefully) grow over the next year.
Good luck!
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05-02-2023, 10:51 AM
#36
Perhaps, but I’ve yet to see real sales data that shows Porsche makes more GTS than the S? The only sales numbers I’ve ever seen lump all 911 sales into one bucket. But with that said, if the profit margin is higher for the GTS, and parts availability are not an issue between the two models, it would not surprise me that Porsche would want to steer customers to a model with more profit for them.
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05-02-2023, 11:00 AM
#37
Perhaps, but I’ve yet to see real sales data that shows Porsche makes more GTS than the S? The only sales numbers I’ve ever seen lump all 911 sales into one bucket. But with that said, if the profit margin is higher for the GTS, and parts availability are not an issue between the two models, it would not surprise me that Porsche would want to steer customers to a model with more profit for them.
Perhaps is a production number thing. They did only make the S for a little while and then the 2 years that the GTS wasn't available. They can't totally flood the market with S's.
05-02-2023, 11:08 AM
#38
05-02-2023, 02:33 PM
#39
Drifting
Well, based on the posters here, it is clearly easier to get a T or a GTS, than it is to get a Base or an S.
05-02-2023, 02:53 PM
#40
Maybe? But the actual sales data will show this, or not? People’s opinions are just that.
05-02-2023, 08:47 PM
#41
05-03-2023, 06:13 AM
#43
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And if people are just relaying what their dealers tell them regarding wait times and allocation availability, then that’s not their opinion. Anecdotal, yes. Opinion, no.
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05-03-2023, 10:33 AM
#44
Assuming you’re responding to @nyca then no, sales data would not show which car is easier to get as that’s also based on demand.
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I suspect that the demand, for both of the S and GTS, exceeds the combined supply….resulting in longer waits. So, one possibility is, because of the supposed higher profit margin, per unit, for the GTS, porsche shifts production volume, to make more GTS than S. Furthermore, if Porsche increases the production of the GTS, over the S, and those cars are easier to get, then no doubt some buyers will decide that the extra $10-$15K for the GTS is worth getting an allocation, sooner? Just what Porsche wants you to do, ie, more, higher profit margin models sold.
But again, without real numbers, this is all speculation. Since Porsche no longer provides a breakdown of production/sales numbers, by model, it’s hard to say why. I wonder why they discontinued doing that? Mmmm🤔
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05-03-2023, 12:59 PM
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..and supply.
I suspect that the demand, for both of the S and GTS, exceeds the combined supply….resulting in longer waits. So, one possibility is, because of the supposed higher profit margin, per unit, for the GTS, porsche shifts production volume, to make more GTS than S. Furthermore, if Porsche increases the production of the GTS, over the S, and those cars are easier to get, then no doubt some buyers will decide that the extra $10-$15K for the GTS is worth getting an allocation, sooner? Just what Porsche wants you to do, ie, more, higher profit margin models sold.
But again, without real numbers, this is all speculation. Since Porsche no longer provides a breakdown of production/sales numbers, by model, it’s hard to say why. I wonder why they discontinued doing that? Mmmm🤔
I suspect that the demand, for both of the S and GTS, exceeds the combined supply….resulting in longer waits. So, one possibility is, because of the supposed higher profit margin, per unit, for the GTS, porsche shifts production volume, to make more GTS than S. Furthermore, if Porsche increases the production of the GTS, over the S, and those cars are easier to get, then no doubt some buyers will decide that the extra $10-$15K for the GTS is worth getting an allocation, sooner? Just what Porsche wants you to do, ie, more, higher profit margin models sold.
But again, without real numbers, this is all speculation. Since Porsche no longer provides a breakdown of production/sales numbers, by model, it’s hard to say why. I wonder why they discontinued doing that? Mmmm🤔
