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Old 03-23-2022, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
I agree with you in principle. But I do not believe we should be looking at world production. Rather, we should consider Porsche US sales and US allocations which is ball park about 48,000 a year. The Felicity Ace was delivering cars to the East coast of North America. That would make US production quarterly allocation about 12,000 a year or 3,000 a quarter or 1,000 a month. So, the percentage depends on whether you are talking US production and whether you are analyzing the annual, quarterly or monthly allocation. I think one can safely say that the Felicity Ace disaster probably ate up most all the April US east coast allocations and probably some of the May allocations too. As to what is the exact percentage...you are correct.....who knows????? Then again, Porsche may have given US east coast dealers extra allocations out of fairness. It could also shift some Europe or Asia allocations to US cars to help out. Again.....who knows for certain??????
They could indeed be taking the re-production out of US only allocations. I was just asking the poster to clarify whether this was speculation or inside information so we have some idea whether it is reliable or not. Otherwise no way to make that assessment.
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My local dealers Feb allocations were pushed to March. The indication is that their next round would be "early summer" but Im not sure what defines that anymore.
Irony is that I hope its delayed enough to be a 2023 model because for me (not commenting on anyone else here) Im wired to want the newest shiny object.
An April/May even June allocation could produce a 2022 car and seeing as its possible the 2023 configurations could be released in less than a month, Id be thinking about the options, colors, etc Id miss out on (even if the car is 6% more)
Just me.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
They could indeed be taking the re-production out of US only allocations. I was just asking the poster to clarify whether this was speculation or inside information so we have some idea whether it is reliable or not. Otherwise no way to make that assessment.
Hey, don't shoot the messenger! No speculation. The info I relayed came from my SA (sales manager standing next to him) at a Porsche dealer. They were told by PNA that US (Canada??) dealers could expect an approx. 20% reduction in their next allocation to make up for the lost vehicles. That's all he said. Take it for what it's worth.

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Not a reply on the allocation intervals as such; but my dealer (UK) has suggested any current 992 order now has an expected delivery of "late 2023 or early 2024".

I waited around 7 months I think for my first 992, which was delivered in Dec '19 (car since sold).

Yikes.
Old 03-26-2022, 10:28 AM
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Do you have an actual allocation or a demand order only for the expected delivery of "late 2023 or early 2024"? Seems like an allocation would get you a car much faster.
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Originally Posted by ant922599
Not a reply on the allocation intervals as such; but my dealer (UK) has suggested any current 992 order now has an expected delivery of "late 2023 or early 2024".

I waited around 7 months I think for my first 992, which was delivered in Dec '19 (car since sold).

Yikes.
Yes- 2 years out right now. Going to take 3 to 4 years to get caught up.

Good thing is for those taking Ownership you will certainly hold your Values for a couple years.
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Originally Posted by Jkb545
Do you have an actual allocation or a demand order only for the expected delivery of "late 2023 or early 2024"? Seems like an allocation would get you a car much faster.
£5k paid to OPC today for a demand order - they have no allocations at the moment; but this will be my 2nd 992 from them and he has assured me i'll get a slot. However, SA confirmed that even most recent allocations have an expected delivery between mid-2023 to early 2024, depending on model.

Specifically - C2 GTS was actually quicker at July 2023, but base Carrera or S is definitely now edging into 2024.
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Originally Posted by ant922599
£5k paid to OPC today for a demand order - they have no allocations at the moment; but this will be my 2nd 992 from them and he has assured me i'll get a slot. However, SA confirmed that even most recent allocations have an expected delivery between mid-2023 to early 2024, depending on model.

Specifically - C2 GTS was actually quicker at July 2023, but base Carrera or S is definitely now edging into 2024.
Five thousand pounds to get on the waiting list? In Northern Virginia, it was $1000 in January. I guess it varies by dealer.
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Originally Posted by ron4sc
Five thousand pounds to get on the waiting list? In Northern Virginia, it was $1000 in January. I guess it varies by dealer.
And probably by country?

I think its been £5k in the UK for a while - or at least with the dealer network my OPC is part of (its a fairly big network).

They specify the 'holding' deposit amount based on model:

Macan, Boxster, Cayman, Panamera @ £3k
Most 911 @ £5k
911 Turbo/S @ £10k
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
I agree with you in principle. But I do not believe we should be looking at world production. Rather, we should consider Porsche US sales and US allocations which is ball park about 48,000 a year. The Felicity Ace was delivering cars to the East coast of North America. That would make US production quarterly allocation about 12,000 a year or 3,000 a quarter or 1,000 a month. So, the percentage depends on whether you are talking US production and whether you are analyzing the annual, quarterly or monthly allocation. I think one can safely say that the Felicity Ace disaster probably ate up most all the April US east coast allocations and probably some of the May allocations too. As to what is the exact percentage...you are correct.....who knows????? Then again, Porsche may have given US east coast dealers extra allocations out of fairness. It could also shift some Europe or Asia allocations to US cars to help out. Again.....who knows for certain??????
annual sales last year was just over 70k vehicles. This year we were expecting 75-76 but obviously Felicity and other factors is changing that ##. We’ll see how many, hope not many, are damaged on SFL composer as well
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Next allocation is early May🤑
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Originally Posted by Jasonamayes
Next allocation is early May🤑
Jason, if that holds true, do you think those will be 2022 or '23s? ie I guess pre August or post Aug builds?
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Originally Posted by ctdubl07
Jason, if that holds true, do you think those will be 2022 or '23s? ie I guess pre August or post Aug builds?
will be June, July, august builds/allocations, with partial fill for September
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Originally Posted by Jasonamayes
will be June, July, august builds/allocations, with partial fill for September
So safe to say all but the Sept builds will be 2022?
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Originally Posted by ctdubl07
So safe to say all but the Sept builds will be 2022?
sorry, I just re-looked. It’s July, Aug, September with partial October.


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