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Old 02-21-2022, 09:35 PM
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My 992C2S got the brake-wear warning light after 9K miles including 5 track sessions. After some research, I decided to go for Ferodo pads, DS2500 since the car is driven about 7:3 for public winding: track. In my previous brake jobs, I replaced rotors with pads, but a front rotor is >$400 for this car. So, I had my rotors resurfaced to save money. I will see if the recycled rotors are good enuf for track duty.

The new parts:
Pads: Ferodo 4664H(front) & 4713H(rear)
Fluid: Castrol SRF - 1L bottle was enuf.
Wear sensor: 9P1-907-637-B(front) & 9P1-907-637-A(rear)



The old parts:
The rotors didn't look too bad, but those had lots of grooves.

The stock pads were Pagid's.



The process:
There are several youtube videos for 991 brake jobs. 992 was no different from especially 991.2. The only difference I noticed was the rear caliper has a bracket for the sensor cable like the front one in 992.

The resurfaced rotors:
The measured thicknesses of the rotors when new were 34mm(F) and 28mm(R). After resurfacing, 33.25+mm(F) and 27.30+mm(R). Somewhere in Rennlist, there was an article that said the minimum thicknesses after resurf were 32.60 and 26.60. So, I think mines are within the spec. Saved the money here.


I tried to recycle the wear sensors, but the friction material of the cables were so fragile and it got broken when I tried to pull it out. I only saved 1 cable among 4. Hey, this cable is $35 each!

After reinstalled.


Now, ready for the next track day!

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Old 02-21-2022, 09:47 PM
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THANK YOU for posting something "technical" with awesome pics. I love this stuff and do most of my own service work. Great pics and information!!!
Was there any issue with turning a drilled rotor? I've heard that can be an issue but from your pics it appears they are chamfered fairly "deep" to allow ease in turning.

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Thank you for sharing the information. I measured my pad thickness yesterday after 5400 miles and a few track days. The rears were down to 0.236” and will require replacement before the first track day this spring.

I will be doing the same pads and rotor resurfacing as you.
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Yes, I had the same concern about the cross-drilled rotors, but the mechanic didn't complain about that. I think those holes don't really matter for resurf.
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I got brake wear sensor cables from Amazon ($8.78 each). They looked to be identical to the ones I removed. However, since I track my car and check pads visually I cut the wires just beyond the plug, and soldered the wires together so I don’t get brake wear indications.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0066QWKPU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0066QWKPU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Originally Posted by RRich
I got brake wear sensor cables from Amazon ($8.78 each). They looked to be identical to the ones I removed. However, since I track my car and check pads visually I cut the wires just beyond the plug, and soldered the wires together so I don’t get brake wear indications.
Thanks! I never knew amazon sells the sensor cables. It looks like 7L0907637C is for rear and 7L0907637 is for front.
Next time, I will have to just make them short-circuited too since I check my pads frequently.
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Thanks for this thread. I did my pads Sunday, at 10,800 miles and 2 track days. There was plenty of pad left on the front but the rears were getting close to the sensors. Like you say its a pretty easy job, once I’d figured out that the reservoir filter insert is an interference fit.

I put in DS2500’s like you, already the pedal feels firmer although they are squealing a little. Maybe after some use that’ll disappear. It was able to reuse the sensors though, just used some needle nose pliers to pull them out.
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How's your brake dust with these new pads?
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If you are tracking your car and checking /changing pads often, I would just zip tie the sensors out of the way and it will make the job 10x easier.
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Originally Posted by westsiderkg
How's your brake dust with these new pads?
To early for me to say yet, I'll let you know after the weekend.
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Here's the front left after maybe 300 road miles + 4 track sessions. Not bad considering, certainly less than the standard Pagid pads. But looking at this photo the rotors look to have taken a bit of a hammering. Need to look at those.


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Originally Posted by thunderhill
My 992C2S got the brake-wear warning light after 9K miles including 5 track sessions. After some research, I decided to go for Ferodo pads, DS2500 since the car is driven about 7:3 for public winding: track. In my previous brake jobs, I replaced rotors with pads, but a front rotor is >$400 for this car. So, I had my rotors resurfaced to save money. I will see if the recycled rotors are good enuf for track duty.

The new parts:
Pads: Ferodo 4664H(front) & 4713H(rear)
Fluid: Castrol SRF - 1L bottle was enuf.
Wear sensor: 9P1-907-637-B(front) & 9P1-907-637-A(rear)



The old parts:
The rotors didn't look too bad, but those had lots of grooves.

The stock pads were Pagid's.



The process:
There are several youtube videos for 991 brake jobs. 992 was no different from especially 991.2. The only difference I noticed was the rear caliper has a bracket for the sensor cable like the front one in 992.

The resurfaced rotors:
The measured thicknesses of the rotors when new were 34mm(F) and 28mm(R). After resurfacing, 33.25+mm(F) and 27.30+mm(R). Somewhere in Rennlist, there was an article that said the minimum thicknesses after resurf were 32.60 and 26.60. So, I think mines are within the spec. Saved the money here.


I tried to recycle the wear sensors, but the friction material of the cables were so fragile and it got broken when I tried to pull it out. I only saved 1 cable among 4. Hey, this cable is $35 each!

After reinstalled.


Now, ready for the next track day!
Nice!
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Since the car has an electric parking brake, did you need anything special to compress the rear pistons? I believe many cars with electric parking brake require software to put the pistons in a service mode.
How did you compress the rear pistons?
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Originally Posted by BKAT
Since the car has an electric parking brake, did you need anything special to compress the rear pistons? I believe many cars with electric parking brake require software to put the pistons in a service mode.
How did you compress the rear pistons?
The parking brake uses a drum internal to the rotor, doesn’t use the caliper. So no, nothing special needed there.
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I have a 2022 992 Targa 4S and am looking for recommendations for "Dustless" or "Ceramic" Brake pads. Not interested in track use, just a daily driver pads that don't throw off minimum dust on the rims.


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