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Old 03-04-2022, 10:55 AM
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Live with it and drive it? … did you miss the part where it is leaking fluid and the cooling system of the car is compromised?

it’s not economical or ethical to hide the damage from car fax.

For a car this new and of this value, get it fixed, make a insurance claim and don’t hide it. I doubt the increase to insurance premiums or accelerated depreciation will exceed 30K
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Old 03-04-2022, 11:02 AM
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Also, the front bumper is damaged enough that the active aero flaps are likely not working, and going to cause the car to throw codes. It’s definitely not drivable if losing radiator fluid. Can’t believe people are suggesting living with 30k damage on a 15 day old 200k car.
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Old 03-04-2022, 11:10 AM
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I also think it’s possible there is damage to suspension or brake components, the majority of the impact is on the underside. Live with it and track it. Tracking that car is the absolute last thing I would do in that condition, most tracks would not let you on the track.
Old 03-04-2022, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by owirelessoo
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Body shop said it will cost over $30k to fix and we are currently waiting on parts now. When I heard $30k I couldn’t believe it.

Will take about 2-3 months starting now.
Not that it isn’t that much, but that’s absurd. It’s really out of hand at this point. You would thing it was a Ferrari 488 or something along those lines.
Old 03-04-2022, 06:04 PM
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To keep the true cost on track what’s the labor vs parts? Good chance the repair shop can easily jack up the labor hourly rates, and hours needed to repair because they can in this environment.
Old 03-04-2022, 07:28 PM
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Owirelessoo, every car with a locking gear shift lever has a manual lock release. On our Jaguar it’s a little cable pull under the hood, on our 911 it’s a round post (push down) hidden under the rubber mat in a little storage niche in front of the shifter. I always read every owner’s manual cover to cover, mostly just for the thrill of mansplaining stuff to His Highness (Mr. I can drive or fix anything)

Check the index in your 992 owner’s manual to find the location of the shift-lock emergency release device.
Old 03-04-2022, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jennifer911
Owirelessoo, every car with a locking gear shift lever has a manual lock release. On our Jaguar it’s a little cable pull under the hood, on our 911 it’s a round post (push down) hidden under the rubber mat in a little storage niche in front of the shifter. I always read every owner’s manual cover to cover, mostly just for the thrill of mansplaining stuff to His Highness (Mr. I can drive or fix anything)

Check the index in your 992 owner’s manual to find the location of the shift-lock emergency release device.
Not all cars have a manual release, I have an SL55 that has no way to release without breaking the mechanism. This may not be the case with the 992, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Old 03-05-2022, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cdk4219
Not that it isn’t that much, but that’s absurd. It’s really out of hand at this point. You would thing it was a Ferrari 488 or something along those lines.
About 8 years ago, after a round of golf, I was driving home in my R8 in really bad stop-and-go traffic. I dozed off and rear ended the car in front of me. The shop estimated that I couldn't have been going more than 10-15 mph but that was fast enough to cause $60k worth of damage to the R8. The headlights alone were $10k back then. Now I order all my new cars with the collision warning nannies!
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:40 AM
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Good advertisement for PID, or the equivalent in other brands.

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Here's a thought, if the dealer has a new car with options you like, why not just trade your car plus the repair sheet on a new one?
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Originally Posted by jrnottarts
If you pay out of pocket it will likely not hit carfax. I ran through this whole debacle for a fender bender.
It is smart to pay out of pocket, even though it’s $30k. You will lose more than $30k on resale if it’s on Carfax. Plus, you may be able to negotiate if you are paying out of pocket.

This sucks! It does look like driver error though. Getting cut off does not mean you ram into a curb… there’s a bit more to this story than we are being told, I think!
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Originally Posted by Calbenzo
About 8 years ago, after a round of golf, I was driving home in my R8 in really bad stop-and-go traffic. I dozed off and rear ended the car in front of me. The shop estimated that I couldn't have been going more than 10-15 mph but that was fast enough to cause $60k worth of damage to the R8. The headlights alone were $10k back then. Now I order all my new cars with the collision warning nannies!
Yup! Me too. ALWAYS check ALL the safety options you can, they will easily pay for themselves if necessary.
Old 03-05-2022, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Calbenzo
About 8 years ago, after a round of golf, I was driving home in my R8 in really bad stop-and-go traffic. I dozed off and rear ended the car in front of me. The shop estimated that I couldn't have been going more than 10-15 mph but that was fast enough to cause $60k worth of damage to the R8. The headlights alone were $10k back then. Now I order all my new cars with the collision warning nannies!
That’s still absurd, but production numbers of r8’s are lots lower than 992’s and 911’s in general. I can see maybe $12k for that damage posted above, but I obviously live in a different world.
Old 03-09-2022, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jrnottarts
If you pay out of pocket it will likely not hit carfax.
Originally Posted by detansinn
The auto body shop is going to report it to CarFax. I
Originally Posted by breny4104
Regarding avoiding a CARFAX report, what does everyone think about paying for something minor like replacing a headlight, taillight or bumper facia (or similar minor accident repair) out of pocket to avoid a CARFAX report?
In my experience, it is often not the insurer and not the bodyshop that triggers the carfax entry, but rather the OE parts order that triggers it.. We had this issue with a minor accident with our Audi, someone rear ended us at a light. It showed up on carfax, and incorrectly as "structural damage". There was no police report as other party took responsibility immediately. Body shop claimed they never report any work to carfax (I know the owner and believe him 100%, and I don't think that is unusual as carfax is NOT a friend of the repair industry), insurance also said they do not directly report to carfax..

After an email discussion with carfax, It turned out it was the Audi parts order, with a VIN specified, that triggered it. And because the body shop ordered a new battery box (some minor cosmetic damage and they needed to harvest some portion of a new one that was not sold separately), Carfax deemed it 'structural damage'. Huge PITA. And I would expect the same exact situation with Porsche parts orders triggering carfax as well. Most OE parts orders, in fact.

I don't think it would matter one wit if the payment was through insurance or out of pocket, if certain parts are ordered and the order is associated with a VIN (which they almost are, under the side benefit of insuring the correct parts are chosen), it very likely might trigger a carfax entry.

Police reports of course almost always will trigger a carfax entry in addition the above...

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Old 03-09-2022, 05:25 PM
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...and on the subject of 'absurd' repair costs, a buddy of mine has a Mclaren 720. On a canyon drive last year, there was a smallish rock in the road that had sloughed off a canyon wall, he didn't have much choice and straddled it. It hit the underside of the car.

Not a big hit, didn't have to stop the car or get it towed. But it cracked plus put a small whole in the the carbon fiber monocoque. The $320K car was deemed totaled! Ouch!


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