Porsche - to Build the 911 You've Always Wanted (4.0L NA) in a Non-GT
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Porsche - to Build the 911 You've Always Wanted (4.0L NA) in a Non-GT
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blepski (02-04-2022)
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I wonder if this is the new Carrera T, given the ethos of the engine and its power output.
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manifold danger (02-04-2022)
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Not going to happen. Maxed out building NA cars now due to fleet emission regulations. NA's will continue to be limited to the GT3 in production 911 series cars.
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A slow 911 to slot below the Base Carrera?
Are there people really clamoring for a 992 that makes less torque everywhere compared to a Base Carrera? That 4.0l in the 718 also makes less horsepower than the Base Carrera powerplant until the top of the rev range. This isn't a GT3 engine -- that NA rev limiter is only 500RPM higher than the 3.0 liter turbocharged engine.
Also, who wrote this article? You only need to go back to the 991.1 that all Carrera's were NA. A used 991.1 is probably the most attainable 911 at the moment given 997, and even 996, values.
Are there people really clamoring for a 992 that makes less torque everywhere compared to a Base Carrera? That 4.0l in the 718 also makes less horsepower than the Base Carrera powerplant until the top of the rev range. This isn't a GT3 engine -- that NA rev limiter is only 500RPM higher than the 3.0 liter turbocharged engine.
Also, who wrote this article? You only need to go back to the 991.1 that all Carrera's were NA. A used 991.1 is probably the most attainable 911 at the moment given 997, and even 996, values.
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AlterZgo (02-03-2022)
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Seems to me, this is just another example of media outlets all chasing the same rumor, and making a guess based on a “spied” picture. Yawn. That’s what the media does to get people to read their tripe. Time will tell.
But from a business perspective, it makes no sense. EV, hybrid and turbos are the directions Porsche is headed. Well, pretty much all manufacturers over the past 5-10 years. The day of the NA engine(s) are dying, if not already in the ground. From a purely collectors point of view, I’d grab the 4.0L whatever model Porsche puts it in, if the opportunity presents itself.
But from a business perspective, it makes no sense. EV, hybrid and turbos are the directions Porsche is headed. Well, pretty much all manufacturers over the past 5-10 years. The day of the NA engine(s) are dying, if not already in the ground. From a purely collectors point of view, I’d grab the 4.0L whatever model Porsche puts it in, if the opportunity presents itself.
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detansinn (02-03-2022)
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That's not the 992 911T.
That's the rumored upcoming 911 ST as explained from both Top Speed and MotorTrend a while back.
That's the rumored upcoming 911 ST as explained from both Top Speed and MotorTrend a while back.
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Yeah, the same feeling here. The lightweight package option on the GTS and the TURBO/S 992's provide Porsche buyers the ability to push into the GT feel while still maintaining the refinement of the standard Carrera line. I bet they will provide a lightweight package across more 992.2 models now, but doubtful of any engine change to NA in anything other than a GT/GTRS/Spyder car. I would be happy with that. Pick a base or S model and add lightweight package, GT shifter, Bucket Seats, etc...
However, to directly contradict that is the 918 GTS 4.0... so we will never know until Porsche marketing publishes content.
However, to directly contradict that is the 918 GTS 4.0... so we will never know until Porsche marketing publishes content.
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They may do it, but it will be a restricted production vehicle. They won't make it standard on any trim besides the GT3...they are using turbo engines because they need them to meet fuel economy/emissions standards.
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i think every automotive manufacturer has been playing the HP game for quite sometime. . Progressively, cars have been getting more and more powerful. Porsche is no different. Having a turbo, or twin turbo technology allows automotive manufacturers to keep tweaking the power curves, without the huge expense of having to develop and build a new, NA engine. Then add to that equation the Government requirements to reduce emission by having cars get better fuel economy. The result is, turbo’s became the de facto answer to how manufacturers could simultaneously meet the consumer demand for more powerful cars, while also meeting the Government requirements for greater efficiency. The turbo was the natural answer to this evolution. Now, enter EV/hybrid technologies into the equation, and we have a new paradigm for future cars.
Might Porsche continue to sell models that have a NA engine? Sure. But it will be limited to small productions, and IMO, will only continue to placate the diehard for a short period of time, or until the complete switch over to EV or hybrid is completed.
Winter is coming. ❄️
Might Porsche continue to sell models that have a NA engine? Sure. But it will be limited to small productions, and IMO, will only continue to placate the diehard for a short period of time, or until the complete switch over to EV or hybrid is completed.
Winter is coming. ❄️
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i think a NA 911 with short gears would be fun. somthing that redlines at 55 mph in third. then you can at least get some gear changes on the back roads.