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Old 02-03-2022 | 09:00 PM
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Just an observation, but the brakes on the test mule appear to be the same as the 992.1 GTS. That is to say, larger than the base and S model brakes, and the front calipers are mounted higher than on a GT3, amonst other things. This likely means this is a GTS model.

So if this is a GTS model, why are we spotting it testing before seeing the lesser versions? Isn't the GTS introduced several months to a year or so after the base and S models of the facelift?
Old 02-03-2022 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Pinkoboe
Just an observation, but the brakes on the test mule appear to be the same as the 992.1 GTS. That is to say, larger than the base and S model brakes, and the front calipers are mounted higher than on a GT3, amonst other things. This likely means this is a GTS model.

So if this is a GTS model, why are we spotting it testing before seeing the lesser versions? Isn't the GTS introduced several months to a year or so after the base and S models of the facelift?
Just an observation - I’ll take the shorter stopping distance brakes of the S, over the GTS brakes. 😎

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Old 02-03-2022 | 09:36 PM
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Mule is likely an S with PSE - normal progression for Porsche, slightly more power and slightly larger brakes on the new model.
The bumper warts are odd but it means there likely will be lights there.
Old 02-03-2022 | 11:39 PM
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They can't even deliver 911s to keep up with demand, why would they be adding more models to the lineup. furthermore, Why would the come out with a cheaper model when people are paying top dollar for used ones?

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Old 02-04-2022 | 12:40 AM
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I know this is near-heresy, but I like turbo engines. At least for daily driving. It’s great having torque down low. I drove an E9x M3 for a while and being high in the rev range was truly glorious, but it wasn’t somewhere I got to visit much on the street.
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Old 02-04-2022 | 01:03 AM
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Makes perfect sense to make this 992 T model with NA engine at 390-400hp. It will slot above base model but have lightweight options like GTS such as LWB, PCCB, RAS, lightweight glass etc.

This would be more about back to basics driving engagement rather than performance figures and power like GTS.

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Old 02-04-2022 | 09:39 AM
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As some others have suggested, it looks like a GTS from the rear and my money is on a new 992 GTS 4.0. I'm a fan of NA engines but need rear seats for the kids, so this would be an ideal 911 for me.
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Old 02-04-2022 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by boutrosa
Why would the come out with a cheaper model when people are paying top dollar for used ones?
Vehicle product development cycles tend to have a longer timeline that a few years. Eventually this chip supply shortage and bull market will be history.

For the last 20 years Porsche has been adding variants and playing with the timing and availability of them. Plenty of people couldn’t see the reasoning behind a GTS slotting in between the S and GT3 right after the housing market melt down. Yet today those models have some of the best depreciation.

Porsche also has a tick-tock chassis-drivetrain cycle going. Release a new body, then release major drivetrain changes. If you’re looking at ways to improve your product while just focusing on the engine, a 911 without the turbos would cost less than the base to manufacture and sell for more.

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Old 02-04-2022 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dudeoverthere
the macan is going EV in 2022.
Not in '22, perhaps '23?
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Old 02-04-2022 | 03:58 PM
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Because we need yet another flavor of 911.
Old 02-04-2022 | 04:00 PM
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I have a new GTS on order, if Porsche came out with a new 992 GTS with an NA motor I would drive my GTS until the day my new one arrived... I don't care how much power it makes where, I want it to be fun and involving.
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Old 02-04-2022 | 04:03 PM
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I just want a GT3 with back seats. I don't want a Carrera engine minus the turbos. I want 9k RPM and the ability throw a kid in the back.
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Old 02-05-2022 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by detansinn
I just want a GT3 with back seats.
Here you are, Detansinn:

The Touring Backseat Project - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
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Old 02-05-2022 | 02:25 PM
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All speculation...
Old 02-05-2022 | 02:55 PM
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And still more speculation ... this time putting some water on the "NA 4.0 engine in the 992.2 911" flames.

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/20...rototype-spied


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