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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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I have a non RAS U.S. spec car. I would have expected that the battery is AGM and says that boldly on it - on my BMWs it’s prominently written.

This is what I see. It is lead acid, but is it AGM?





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Spoken like a guy hawking batteries in every forum on Rennlist.
Sorry you are so frustrated with us LexVan, I can understand your perspective for sure, you don't like Vendors posting on Rennlist, it logical. I would appreciate it if you would stop making a negative comment at us each time we post, and that you consider the facts before attempting to insult or call us out..

- I posted nothing about selling our batteries in this particular thread, as is the case in many or our posts.

- I offered the factual, and truthful realities in regards to the question that was asked by a Rennlist member. It was only to educate and assist them in case they go to a Dealer and get the falsehoods that some Porsche Dealers will often tell the unknowing Customer. Dealers will often say you cannot use anything but a Porsche Battery, they will say it will cancel your warranty if you use another brand, they will say you have to Register the battery at a high cost, and in general not be accurate. Many of the Dealers comments are ignorant of the facts, and even sometimes intentionally false. I know from personal experiance.

- We are a battery company and Professionals in regards to all aspects Automotive Batteries as well as all batteries used in Autos, Motorcycles, RVs, Jump Starters, Solar Generator/PowerStation, and that is because we actually develop and manufacture these products. So if we are replying to a Post we are actually giving accurate, honest and pertinent information be it regarding how a Charging system operates, what causes Battery failures, what the difference is between all the Lead/Acid Battery variants like AGM, FLA, GEL, or any questions... and that is because this is all we do, deal with Batteries.

- I have owned a 2016 GT3RS, and dealt with 3 local Porsche Dealerships and their sometimes Service Depts personally during the time I owned my RS, so I am intimately familiar with how Porsche at the Dealership level operates. Additionally we tested extensively on my personal GT3RS. We have spent the time and tested all our Antigravity Lithium Battery models as well as the Porsche Banner Battery in that GT3RS. This allowed us to make neccesary changes as we developed our Lithium Batteries. We did a few years of discharge, recharge, charging-profile testing, looking into what the PIWIS system actually did when changed, and if the Registration process changed the charging profile or was needed. Additionally, I worked with and tested with several Rennlist forum members,as well as other private parties regarding the Batteries in their Porsches, be it Lithium or Lead/Acid. So I personally, as well as Antigravity Batteries have a tremendous amount of insight an knowledge to assist the Members here on Renn. We are not just "hawking" products at all and never have since being a member here since 2017.

We will continue to post when we think we can be of assistance or educate those on the Lithium products we sell, or on questions regarding other issues related to Batteries or Charging systems. So to end this I am simply saying I would just prefer not to see the disrespectful comments directed at us as a Vendor when we are actually trying to just be an active member of the forum and assist much of the time.

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I'm going with Banner

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No access ports to add water, so AGM.
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No access ports to add water, so AGM.
Thanks. Kind of funny that the battery is not labeled AGM. I went back to the manual and it quoted that lead battery replacements must be AGM - hence, the original got to be…
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Lead acid batteries ended in the 997 series.
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by German1967
I have a non RAS U.S. spec car. I would have expected that the battery is AGM and says that boldly on it - on my BMWs it’s prominently written.

This is what I see. It is lead acid, but is it AGM?



Its AGM and the reason they don't put some specific info is so you will go to the Porsche Dealer to replace. You can in fact find that battery as a relabeled H6 or H7 Battery by Bosch and a few others, actually even the Walmart Platinum Plus is that battery..... That is the Porsche "Banner" Battery and most Porsche Dealers will tell you that you can only use their battery but that is boloney. They also put a Serial# on it and say you need to enter that when Registering the Battery, and that you HAVE to register the battery. But registration is not totally needed each time you change out the battery.
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Originally Posted by Antigravity
Its AGM and the reason they don't put some specific info is so you will go to the Porsche Dealer to replace. You can in fact find that battery as a relabeled H6 or H7 Battery by Bosch and a few others, actually even the Walmart Platinum Plus is that battery..... That is the Porsche "Banner" Battery and most Porsche Dealers will tell you that you can only use their battery but that is boloney. They also put a Serial# on it and say you need to enter that when Registering the Battery, and that you HAVE to register the battery. But registration is not totally needed each time you change out the battery.
First I've heard that registration is not necessary - I have a 2018 Macan coming up on battery replacement this Summer so that's of interest to me. Can you elaborate further? Thanks in advance.
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AFAIK, it's required. If your new battery doesn't have a 15 character serial #, you need to add a "space" to fill out to 15. Procedure on 2020 Macan S shown below which should be the same on the 992.

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Originally Posted by mksz51
First I've heard that registration is not necessary - I have a 2018 Macan coming up on battery replacement this Summer so that's of interest to me. Can you elaborate further? Thanks in advance.
Seems kind of early for an AGM replacement...

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Originally Posted by siberian
Seems kind of early for an AGM replacement...

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I'm learning about that also - Perhaps an automatic change (to avoid a problem) is NOT necessary on an AGM at 4 years on the factory battery. Car is a daily driver and we NEVER use auto start / stop. I know the daily driver status factors in my favor for longevity; not sure the auto start / stop is of any value other than potentially alerting of an impending battery failure.

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Originally Posted by Antigravity
Its AGM and the reason they don't put some specific info is so you will go to the Porsche Dealer to replace. You can in fact find that battery as a relabeled H6 or H7 Battery by Bosch and a few others, actually even the Walmart Platinum Plus is that battery..... That is the Porsche "Banner" Battery and most Porsche Dealers will tell you that you can only use their battery but that is boloney. They also put a Serial# on it and say you need to enter that when Registering the Battery, and that you HAVE to register the battery. But registration is not totally needed each time you change out the battery.
Spoken like a guy hawking batteries in every forum on Rennlist.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Spoken like a guy hawking batteries in every forum on Rennlist.
Good point Lexvan……but his statement is accurate.
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
Good point Lexvan……but his statement is accurate.
It's not completely accurate. Registration is required.
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LexVan
It's not completely accurate. Registration is required.
Per my Porsche SA, registration not required if original battery is replaced with a battery with identical specifications as original (regardless of brand - Banner, Walmart, Duracell, Interstate, etc.) He says the new battery will charge the same as the original and no big deal if nothing else has changed.
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