Has anybody put a tune(56 hp) in there at 992 Carrera S yet
01-15-2022 | 11:52 PM
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"To tune or not to Tune" that be the question
Remember- Porsche has to prove that the tune, in fact, caused whatever damage could occur, and, if any. An expert tuner knows what parameters to play with and what is in the "acceptable" range as to not cause any damage to the engine. The reason you go with a good tuner is for this expertise.
I have tuned a couple Porsches and I do not have any concerns. But- how much faster will you want this GTS to go when out of the box this thing is doing 0-60 in 2.8 sec.??? Do you really plan on racing high school kids in their Subarus'??
Remember- Porsche has to prove that the tune, in fact, caused whatever damage could occur, and, if any. An expert tuner knows what parameters to play with and what is in the "acceptable" range as to not cause any damage to the engine. The reason you go with a good tuner is for this expertise.
I have tuned a couple Porsches and I do not have any concerns. But- how much faster will you want this GTS to go when out of the box this thing is doing 0-60 in 2.8 sec.??? Do you really plan on racing high school kids in their Subarus'??
01-16-2022 | 07:40 AM
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^ So far, you are the only person here who has reported that a tune went badly.
I almost never hear about that.
Were your tunes from reputable companies?
I’m thinking that the people who go with GAIC, APR, M Eng are going to do just fine
I almost never hear about that.
Were your tunes from reputable companies?
I’m thinking that the people who go with GAIC, APR, M Eng are going to do just fine
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01-16-2022 | 09:52 AM
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Would you not agree that Porsche AG doesn't have to prove anything at all? They simply deny the warranty based on whatever dots and dashes of code they pulled out of the computer box on the car, then you as the aggrieved party have to go after them, which means shelling out about $ 10,000 for an attorney for starters, then lying under oath that you never had an aftermarket tune in the car, opening yourself up for a counter suit if you do. That's how I see it going down. You can bet they have been down that road before.
I would not tune any new car until you get at least a few thousand miles on her. if I do a tune it would be after the first year maintenance. Last thing you want is the Tune to get blamed for just the bad luck of getting a ****ty engine which could be 1 in a 1000 car chance
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01-16-2022 | 09:54 AM
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I was a long time ago, in the 90's. Now I leave engines stock and just buy the car that suits my needs as it keeps the warranty intact. and (realistically) the resale market prefers stock as well. I prefer Porsche factory engineering but to each his own. More to the point ,if you go the tune route why try to cover it up something goes amiss? We see dealers referred to as "Stealerships" often here, how about a name for the guys that mod their car and they want to try to cover up the mods to get warranty work? Can we call then "WarrantyWankers"?
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01-16-2022 | 10:23 AM
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^ You’re getting into a lot of theoreticals here.
I’ve not heard of a case of a tuned car having a drivetrain failure that the owner tried to get fixed under warranty.
Has anyone hear heard of a case?
I’ve not heard of a case of a tuned car having a drivetrain failure that the owner tried to get fixed under warranty.
Has anyone hear heard of a case?
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01-16-2022 | 10:41 AM
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Wow! Thanks for sharing your information. Terrible luck. But I am pleased for you that Porsche made it right. I wonder what rpm service manager hit when he spun the bearing,just out of curiosity.
01-16-2022 | 10:45 AM
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Would you not agree that Porsche AG doesn't have to prove anything at all? They simply deny the warranty based on whatever dots and dashes of code they pulled out of the computer box on the car, then you as the aggrieved party have to go after them, which means shelling out about $ 10,000 for an attorney for starters, then lying under oath that you never had an aftermarket tune in the car, opening yourself up for a counter suit if you do. That's how I see it going down. You can bet they have been down that road before.
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01-16-2022 | 11:00 AM
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01-16-2022 | 11:42 AM
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You are correct…and I expect APR, GAIC, Cobb and Softronic are all of the same opinion as M Engineering…..they all sell tunes….that is their bread and butter. The issue would be one of proving no legal causation between the mod installed (tune, sport cats, etc.) and the failure, but the tune vendors do not have to hire the attorneys and expert witnesses to fight Porsche (one of the richest corporations on the planet thanks to us) on a $10-$25k warranty claim. As the old saying goes, even if I win …….”the process is the punishment.”
But, I would already have a tune by now but for this one concern of mine……..which is not a technical concern, ironically.
But, I would already have a tune by now but for this one concern of mine……..which is not a technical concern, ironically.
I’ve been tempted to mod my vehicles, but I don’t have the money some guys on here do and I can’t afford to be stuck eating the costs of an engine failure that Porsche won’t cover.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
01-16-2022 | 11:26 PM
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Hopefully if someone is, they are smart enough not to post it on a public forum.