Notices
992 2019-Present The Forum for the Non-Turbo 911
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Has anybody put a tune(56 hp) in there at 992 Carrera S yet

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-08-2022 | 12:13 PM
  #16  
Fullyield's Avatar
Fullyield
Drifting
 
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 1,576
Default

Originally Posted by breny4104
I think it's GAIC (or is it APR?) that will provide engine warranty with their tune for the same warranty period as the manufacturer's. However you can't have the Sport Cats unless you use their solution.
Good to know. Thank you for the clarification. That makes a difference to me and might to some others.
The following users liked this post:
Victor C3 (01-16-2022)
Old 01-08-2022 | 12:15 PM
  #17  
Fullyield's Avatar
Fullyield
Drifting
 
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 1,576
Default

Originally Posted by eagle1960
Not sure whay you even asked the original question when you had already made up your mind that for you , a tune is not possible.
Because it directly responds to JoePro’s original thread and as you can see several members (Breny and jnkirk) have added clarity to the warranty issue with GAIC or APR which was helpful to me and maybe others. that is what a forum is about.

Last edited by Fullyield; 01-08-2022 at 12:17 PM.
Old 01-08-2022 | 12:19 PM
  #18  
IvanzoomskI's Avatar
IvanzoomskI
Track Day
 
Joined: Oct 2021
Posts: 18
Likes: 4
Default

Yes, I did a custom tune in The Netherlands on my C2S and also added an Akrapovič exhaust and sport cats. Originals it measured 465hp and now 570hp. The difference is huge, it's another car now.

I have to admit that sometimes I have doubts that the power is too much now for my RWD. When driving anything lower then 130 km/h the rear wheel slides very easy in the current cold (1-10 degrees Celcius) conditions.

So I am in doubt to let it return to stock again, besides some usefull tweaks (cold start from 1500 to 1000rpm and revving above 3000rpm allowed during stand still in neutral).
The following users liked this post:
AlterZgo (01-08-2022)
Old 01-09-2022 | 04:16 PM
  #19  
CaptainHo's Avatar
CaptainHo
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 16
Likes: 3
Default

I say do it, few of my buddies have M-Engineering tunes, really wakes up the car. No issues with warranty as of yet, but they haven't had big engine problems.
I guess it helps the local dealer is tuner friendly though.
The following users liked this post:
Snapperkid (01-14-2022)
Old 01-14-2022 | 11:00 AM
  #20  
Snapperkid's Avatar
Snapperkid
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 25
Likes: 7
Default

For 56hp…why bother.
The following users liked this post:
peterdouglas (01-16-2022)
Old 01-14-2022 | 11:43 AM
  #21  
Tupper's Avatar
Tupper
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 2,383
Likes: 1,624
From: Chicago area
Default

Originally Posted by CaptainHo
I say do it, few of my buddies have M-Engineering tunes, really wakes up the car. No issues with warranty as of yet, but they haven't had big engine problems.
I guess it helps the local dealer is tuner friendly though.
We’ve discussed tunes and warranties extensively here.

If you boil it down, it’s really just a financial question, not a performance one.

It’s like an investment with a slight amount of risk. Do you want to put that money into your happiness? How happy will it make you? In a very unlikely scenario it could lead to a financial loss, but very likely that will never happen.

So financially—what risk can you take?
The following 2 users liked this post by Tupper:
drcollie (01-15-2022), LSM111 (01-14-2022)
Old 01-14-2022 | 11:52 AM
  #22  
M Engineering's Avatar
M Engineering
Platinum Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,133
Likes: 1,603
From: SoCal / AZ / South FL
Default

Lots of threads and posts on this forum regarding 992 tuning. Feel free to DM us if you have any questions! We are here to help.

-Charles@M
Old 01-14-2022 | 03:42 PM
  #23  
LSM111's Avatar
LSM111
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 221
Likes: 88
Default

Originally Posted by Fullyield;[url=tel:17891743
17891743[/url]]I have been watching the tune threads also because considering adding a tune with Soul sport cats. My concern is how these mods effect warranty because there is no such thing as a tune install that cannot be detected. I am concerned that Porsche will use the tune or mods to try to void the warranty if I have a major issue with engine, turbos or LSPI during the warranty period.
Here’s the thing. While they may not detect the actual product or change in ECU on your car, if the parameters rev, speed etx are much higher than stock the assumption would be your ecu was tuned.

Even piggyback tunes can be discovered if they look hard enough.

i know over on bimmerpost when BMW wanted to find if I car was tuned they could. Porsche could def see if your car exhibited outside the norm performance parameters even if they don’t physically see the tune
The following users liked this post:
detansinn (01-16-2022)
Old 01-14-2022 | 08:06 PM
  #24  
F8Driver's Avatar
F8Driver
Pro
 
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 640
Likes: 347
Default

The lesser tunes, of which the GTS is one, should be relatively benign. The engine is robust, but if you go for Turbo S power, I'd beware.
Old 01-15-2022 | 03:29 PM
  #25  
ohniner's Avatar
ohniner
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 410
Likes: 280
From: Southeast US
Default

They are not bulletproof by a long shot. While at dealer for door rattle fix my 2021 base with 208 miles lost the engine completely. Porsche came through like champs but no engine is bulletproof...tune at your own risk
Old 01-15-2022 | 03:40 PM
  #26  
drcollie's Avatar
drcollie
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,382
Likes: 4,476
From: Fairfax County, Virginia
Default

Tupper is correct, it's a financial decision. Your warranty is gone when you tune (as it applies to an engine and drivetrain) Either your tune company backs it in writing or they don't. Having a "dealer-friendly" tune is moot unless you have it in writing.as Porsche AG is buying the engine under warranty, not the dealer.

Assume the risk and put on your Big Boy pants if you do. Costs money to play the game, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, just like doing track days. Thinking you can "reverse" evidence of a tune is folly, do you think Porsche hasn't figured out to detect that sort of thing when a $ 60,000 replacement engine is on the line? Get real.

I have had two "tunes" on vehicles (non-Porsche). One did nothing but screw up the car's performance and make it jittery and hesitant. The other blew the head gaskets on the car from excessive turbo boost. I won't do any more tunes - my thought is sell your car (great time to do that) and buy the model that has the factory power you want. Can get very expensive to do out of pocket repairs.
The following 5 users liked this post by drcollie:
Babyray (01-16-2022), detansinn (01-16-2022), kgs365 (01-15-2022), LSM111 (01-15-2022), Victor C3 (01-16-2022)
Old 01-15-2022 | 04:32 PM
  #27  
991.1 Guy's Avatar
991.1 Guy
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 1,701
Likes: 932
From: Central Florida
Default

Originally Posted by ohniner
They are not bulletproof by a long shot. While at dealer for door rattle fix my 2021 base with 208 miles lost the engine completely. Porsche came through like champs but no engine is bulletproof...tune at your own risk
please elaborate on what happened. Mine is going in for the door rattle fix now I’m worried
The following users liked this post:
Kurac (01-15-2022)
Old 01-15-2022 | 04:45 PM
  #28  
Kurac's Avatar
Kurac
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 342
Likes: 216
From: NE Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by drcollie
I have had two "tunes" on vehicles (non-Porsche). One did nothing but screw up the car's performance and make it jittery and hesitant. The other blew the head gaskets on the car from excessive turbo boost. I won't do any more tunes - my thought is sell your car (great time to do that) and buy the model that has the factory power you want. Can get very expensive to do out of pocket repairs.
I have a combined 200K miles between 2 Audi’s with Stage 1 tunes without issue. What were your cars you tuned and what tunes did you go with? Any other mods besides the tune?
Old 01-15-2022 | 05:00 PM
  #29  
Jimmy-D's Avatar
Jimmy-D
Race Director
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 11,291
Likes: 1,467
From: Midwest
Default

"To tune or not to Tune" that be the question

Remember- Porsche has to prove that the tune, in fact, caused whatever damage could occur, and, if any. An expert tuner knows what parameters to play with and what is in the "acceptable" range as to not cause any damage to the engine. The reason you go with a good tuner is for this expertise.

I have tuned a couple Porsches and I do not have any concerns. But- how much faster will you want this GTS to go when out of the box this thing is doing 0-60 in 2.8 sec.??? Do you really plan on racing high school kids in their Subarus'??
Old 01-15-2022 | 05:25 PM
  #30  
Tupper's Avatar
Tupper
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 2,383
Likes: 1,624
From: Chicago area
Default

Originally Posted by 991.1 Guy
please elaborate on what happened. Mine is going in for the door rattle fix now I’m worried
I’m sure that his door rattle (which countless of us have) had nothing to do with his engine failure
The following users liked this post:
porshaadude (05-11-2022)


Quick Reply: Has anybody put a tune(56 hp) in there at 992 Carrera S yet



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:16 AM.