breny4104

I have all of the tech add-ons except Remote Park Assist and Night Vision Assist. I have tested the ones I have and they are all good and will use them when appropriate... LCA, LKA, ALK, ACC, PID, surround view, etc,

rk-d

Agree. Which is why I spec'ed my car with none.

At least Porsche gives you the option not to spend money on these things. Personally, I don't have an issue with those who want them. They don't fundamentally impact the design of the car and no real compromises in performance are made to accommodate them.

I understand the philosophical issue with having all the gizmos, but the 911 has always been a dual purpose car. That is its defining feature. What characterizes a dual purpose car necessarily changes through the years. Porsche has to move with the times.

That said, even if you can spec very lightly on the nannies side, most are still driving a car with PASM, PTV, PADM, PDK with the option of PCCB, PDCC and RAS. The car would probably drive much worse without the alphabet soup of tech. In that context, it seems futile to complain about the corrupting influence of nanny tech. This car is already a supercomputer.

SamD

I mostly agree, but you are forgetting there must be motors of some sort to move the steering mechanism (possibly also effecting steering feel?). But a little weight here and a little there eventually add up to a heavier, and likely less desirable, car . . .

Bluehighways

Ugh, some of you folks need to go back to: swing axles, roll up windows, wing windows instead of air conditioning, fuel reserve tank levers with in cockpit fuel filters, window screens for oil filtration, ten foot long mechanical tachometer cables, worm and sector manual steering boxes, clutch cables and six volt electrical systems.

CodyBigdog

I’ll go out on a limb here (ie, I don’t have to prove this conclusion):

The current 992, despite being the most expensive (normalized) 911, is perhaps, one of the best selling 911’s ever made. I would further speculate that if one were to plot the gross weight of the 911 (on the vertical axis) and years (on the horizontal axis)…you would see that with each generation of 911, the weight has increased. But then, so too has the HP. Over the years, as the weight has grown, the performance metrics (slalom, track, on the street…all of them) for the 911 have progressively gotten better…not worse.

Adding some weight, per se, is not all bad, so long as most of that weight gain is in muscle mass, and not flab. 🤔

SBAD

Assuming sport driving is the primary purpose of the 911, then any add-on or assist that removes distractions from the driving process (including improvement of the safety envelope during said driving) is fine with me.

CodyBigdog

^ Same here.

My PID has saved my *** more than once. I enjoy having the added safety features of my 992S, so much, that I now would rather drive my Porsche than my M4….until my PID saved my *** once, I had preferred my M4 to driving in town or on trips.

jnkirk1974

How does this equate to self-parking? That was the original topic.

This thread has gone WAY off course. Again, self-parking. In my opinion, completely unnecessary.
This has nothing to do with safety.

Why would people want the world's most perfect driver's car and find ways to not drive it? Parking a 911 isn't exactly difficult.

If people want to purchase this option, go for it. However, my opinion is that it doesn't need to be offered in the first place.

CodyBigdog

….pretty sure is wasn’t an option (self parking) on the 992 until 2022? Mine is a 2021, and don’t remember it as an option, but even if it had been, I prob wouldn’t have selected it. As you stated, not exactly a safety option.

Nevertheless, all car manufacturers are in the business to sell as many cars as the market will allow. If Porsche feels there is consumer demand for certain options, I suspect they will add…regardless of how purists might feel about those options. After all, who should know the most about their customer base, than Porsche themselves?

The option that is missing (and I think those of us that have this on other cars would agree (mine is on my M4)…is the head’s up display. IMO, it’s not only a safety option, but a driver’s option. Keeping your eyes focused on the road, instead of having to look over and down to the PCM screen in the center of the consul, should have been a higher priority for Porsche, IMO. Everytime I see Tesla’s huge control screen in the center of the car…I think, now that’s a poor design, and an accident waiting to happen.

breny4104

If you DD the car and live in a downtown area where parallel and tight squeezes are the norm, then I can see a benefit to Remote Park Assist. If someone parks and leaves you no space to get in your car, it could be handy to have.

Tupper

Couldn't agree more. My BMW has heads up display and it's a WONDERFUL option. It enhances the driver experience

rk-d

This is where I have an objection.

I really don't like HUD. Very distracting. Normally, I wouldn't care b/c you can turn the things off, but the HUD unit invariably adds a lump on top of the dash which I don't care for.

smiles11

I did

CodyBigdog

https://www.scientific-computing.com...-racing-safety

It’s a great driver’s/safety aide….at least all my fellow bimmer buds think so. The bump in my M4 is a non-issue for me, but everybody has things they don’t like.

DavidColorado

The one that strikes me as the most incongruous is Lane Keep Assist. You're driving a 911 and you need assistance staying in your lane?? Time for your kids to take your keys away.
(with all due respect)