Notices
992 2019-Present The Forum for the Non-Turbo 911
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

PDCC TO GET OR NOT ON GTS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-04-2023, 09:12 PM
  #46  
Patek
Rennlist Member
 
Patek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 166
Received 56 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

Thanks
Old 12-05-2023, 12:27 AM
  #47  
johnohara
Instructor
 
johnohara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 233
Received 139 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

I debated the same question 8 months ago when I got my allocation.

After speakeing with many people who had RWS and PDCC (and also FAL) my decision (on my 23 C2 GTS) was: definitely get RWS, and skip PDCC and FAL ... save the 6K and don't need it on a GTS...

MY SA and friends said "you can't get PDCC on a GT3, how critical can it be". -- you can get FAL on a GT3...

Seems like the right call 6 months after delivery.

Last edited by johnohara; 12-05-2023 at 12:29 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Patek (12-05-2023)
Old 12-05-2023, 03:18 AM
  #48  
TuvaD
Racer
 
TuvaD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 297
Received 184 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

If I could do it again, I'd get PDCC. It helps with the ride quality and stability at 140+ mph. Neither might be an issue for most folks though.
The following users liked this post:
HOTCHKIS (12-05-2023)
Old 12-05-2023, 10:38 AM
  #49  
HOTCHKIS
Racer
 
HOTCHKIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Florida
Posts: 300
Received 165 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TuvaD
If I could do it again, I'd get PDCC. It helps with the ride quality and stability at 140+ mph. Neither might be an issue for most folks though.
yes it does I briefly hit 174 in mine on a deserted turnpike recently and it was super stable.

Last edited by HOTCHKIS; 12-05-2023 at 10:39 AM.
Old 12-05-2023, 11:17 AM
  #50  
ipse dixit
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
ipse dixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,021
Likes: 0
Received 11,774 Likes on 5,139 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 1MORLAP
I have it, and it's broken. If you read the reliability threads, you will not want it. It is a liability if you want to keep the car past its warranty.
Link(s) please.

Thank you.
Old 12-05-2023, 12:48 PM
  #51  
22992
Burning Brakes
 
22992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 1,052
Received 808 Likes on 432 Posts
Default

All you need to do is look at what Porsche specs for the various trims. RWS on GT3 for track times, pdcc and rws no on the S/T as Porsche themselves says it provides a more traditional feel. GT3= track times, S/T = on road driving dynamics.
Old 12-05-2023, 02:27 PM
  #52  
ipse dixit
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
ipse dixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,021
Likes: 0
Received 11,774 Likes on 5,139 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 22992
All you need to do is look at what Porsche specs for the various trims. RWS on GT3 for track times, pdcc and rws no on the S/T as Porsche themselves says it provides a more traditional feel. GT3= track times, S/T = on road driving dynamics.
To be fair, the deletion of RWS and PDCC on the S/T is more for weight savings than anything else.
The following users liked this post:
CanAutM3 (12-05-2023)
Old 12-05-2023, 04:16 PM
  #53  
22992
Burning Brakes
 
22992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 1,052
Received 808 Likes on 432 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipse dixit
To be fair, the deletion of RWS and PDCC on the S/T is more for weight savings than anything else.
In their marketing material they specifically mention the elimination the systems for driving dynamics. Although, your point is taken that the weight elimination may have more to do with that than the systems interfering. Either way, their deletion means something to the feel of the car. Without the systems per Porsche, the car will have more familiar analog, less artificial feel.
Old 12-06-2023, 03:32 AM
  #54  
HappinessProcured
Racer
 
HappinessProcured's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 342
Received 191 Likes on 111 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TuvaD
If I could do it again, I'd get PDCC. It helps with the ride quality and stability at 140+ mph. Neither might be an issue for most folks though.
Many of us wish that were an issue for us
Old 12-06-2023, 03:35 AM
  #55  
HappinessProcured
Racer
 
HappinessProcured's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 342
Received 191 Likes on 111 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HOTCHKIS
yes it does I briefly hit 174 in mine on a deserted turnpike recently and it was super stable.
How do you attribute this to the PDCC? You've also done the same speed at the same location in an identical car without it?

Last edited by HappinessProcured; 12-06-2023 at 01:12 PM.
Old 12-06-2023, 07:54 AM
  #56  
HOTCHKIS
Racer
 
HOTCHKIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Florida
Posts: 300
Received 165 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HappinessProcured
How do attribute this to the PDCC? You've also done the same speed at the same location in an identical car without it?
No does your car have PDCC ?
Old 12-06-2023, 01:13 PM
  #57  
HappinessProcured
Racer
 
HappinessProcured's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 342
Received 191 Likes on 111 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HOTCHKIS
No does your car have PDCC ?
No. But it handles pretty damn well.
Old 12-06-2023, 02:30 PM
  #58  
TuvaD
Racer
 
TuvaD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 297
Received 184 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HappinessProcured
No. But it handles pretty damn well.
My 4GTS handles very well and I prefer the slightly more natural SPASM but non-PDCC feeling on regular switchbacks.

It's at sustained high speeds of 140+ mph that it doesn't feel totally locked down and reduces confidence.

PDCC helps with that stability and tires and tire pressures are obviously key.

The GT3 is much stiffer and doesn't need that tech or the additional weight.

Just my two cents.

Last edited by TuvaD; 12-06-2023 at 02:32 PM.
The following 2 users liked this post by TuvaD:
CanAutM3 (12-07-2023), HOTCHKIS (12-06-2023)
Old 12-07-2023, 12:29 AM
  #59  
michaelp
Rennlist Member
 
michaelp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 300
Received 103 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

I’m a fan of PDCC (and RAS), have it on my GTS. It’s noticeable even when highway cruising. Reduced body roll, more planted feel.

Also need to push back on the nonsense about it inducing nausea. 100% not the case. It literally does the opposite for my driving experience. It’s also implemented very well, nothing about it feels unnatural.

Prior to the GTS I had a base C2, and that was a body roll disaster. Granted the GTS has MUCH firmer suspension, so not even apples-to-apples here.. but I really wanted to eliminate body roll as much as possible without going to a GT3. I track my car occasionally.

Last edited by michaelp; 12-07-2023 at 12:32 AM.



Quick Reply: PDCC TO GET OR NOT ON GTS



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:08 AM.