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Nov 12, 2021, 07:52 PM
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I stand by the information given on my video. Hopefully PCNA will get more allocations this year and things will improve but right now they are still running far below normal allocations.
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I haven't watched this, however, I think Nick's source and 'reporting out' is a bit flawed unless the scope is just what info he gets from his particular dealership he does business with.
I take his information with a grain of salt and don't pay too particular attention to the data details and lean towards a more general info type of video.
YMMV.
I take his information with a grain of salt and don't pay too particular attention to the data details and lean towards a more general info type of video.
YMMV.
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Thanks for posting. Yes, this is still pretty grim. Normally it's 2500 allocations for that period. The most interesting takeaway for me was near the end, when he noted that Porsche is still producing lots of 911 cars, just not for North America. That's because, according to Nick, the relative price outside of North America is much higher, yielding a greater profit per unit. Historically, lower per unit profit was made up my the volume in the USA and Canada. But since they can't make as many cars, that's why we're seeing so many more deliveries in Europe, Asia, and the Mid-East. He ends by stating that all US dealers are now charging ADM, and says it's foolish to pay over sticker for an already very expensive car. He says to wait out the shortage and opt for a different car. WOW!
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i actually picked up a bmw M4 xDrive when my dealer moved my turbo S allocation to nov/dec next year. Will hopefully be able to pickup a 992.2 turbo s, would even consider the hybrid if out by the times things normalize
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^ Exactly, this video is complete BS.
They are just as many allocations available for 911's as there always has been. There is just slightly more demand which which means there are no 911s sitting on dealer lots. Anybody who wants a 911 has to order one.
All this fear mongering does is give dealerships the ability to gouge there customers.
They are just as many allocations available for 911's as there always has been. There is just slightly more demand which which means there are no 911s sitting on dealer lots. Anybody who wants a 911 has to order one.
All this fear mongering does is give dealerships the ability to gouge there customers.
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Internet blowhards notwithstanding, no one can say that times are normal in the automotive world. There are few 911 and 718 models to be had, and orders are scarce. And supply is way outstripping demand. That's what is driving up prices, not people listening to Nick Murray. I don't agree that there "just as many allocations" as there have always been. Certainly not for the US market. Dealers have no stock outside of SUVs. And confirmed orders are taking months longer than anticipated. How is any of this normal?
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Internet blowhards notwithstanding, no one can say that times are normal in the automotive world. There are few 911 and 718 models to be had, and orders are scarce. And supply is way outstripping demand. That's what is driving up prices, not people listening to Nick Murray. I don't agree that there "just as many allocations" as there have always been. Certainly not for the US market. Dealers have no stock outside of SUVs. And confirmed orders are taking months longer than anticipated. How is any of this normal?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTi...nel=NickMurray
900 over the next 3 months, yikes
190 dealerships, that avgs 1.5 cars per month ugh. prob big dealers get 3-4, small ones 1-2 per month. guess Im waiting for a 992.2 lol
900 over the next 3 months, yikes
190 dealerships, that avgs 1.5 cars per month ugh. prob big dealers get 3-4, small ones 1-2 per month. guess Im waiting for a 992.2 lol
Unless I missed it, did he say the source of this information? That info would be useful in deciding whether the allocation info is valid?
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More sales information, this time Q3 2021:
Porsche reports Q3 2021 U.S. retail sales
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Internet blowhards notwithstanding, no one can say that times are normal in the automotive world. There are few 911 and 718 models to be had, and orders are scarce. And supply is way outstripping demand. That's what is driving up prices, not people listening to Nick Murray. I don't agree that there "just as many allocations" as there have always been. Certainly not for the US market. Dealers have no stock outside of SUVs. And confirmed orders are taking months longer than anticipated. How is any of this normal?
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2021/company/porsche-cars-north-america-retail-sales-third-quarter-2021-25948.html
There is no shortage.
Theres just a lot of nearsighted people willing to pay above MSRP to own a 911. Only they can explain why.
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His dog told him.
More sales information, this time Q3 2021:
Porsche reports Q3 2021 U.S. retail sales
More sales information, this time Q3 2021:
Porsche reports Q3 2021 U.S. retail sales
The dog is behind this. That explains a LOT.
Love this bit of marketing spin from Porsche. Yes, customers love the “experience” of paying more, and waiting longer…while dealers really love the “experience” of having few, or no cars, on their lots….and having to deal with angry customers wanting to know why their delivery date got pushed back. It’s a win-win🤓
”Demand is as strong as we’ve ever seen – helped by being able to provide the most complete and attractive experience ever, from the range of fresh, relevant and desirable cars, to the ownership experience and level of personalization we now offer, and to the commitment and expertise of our dealers.
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Sorry but your perceptions are incorrect. Third-quarter sales results reported by Porsche AG themselves state that they’ve sold just as many 911‘s as they always have
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2...021-25948.html
There is no shortage.
There’s just a lot of nearsighted people willing to pay above MSRP to own a 911. Only they can explain why.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2...021-25948.html
There is no shortage.
There’s just a lot of nearsighted people willing to pay above MSRP to own a 911. Only they can explain why.
