Anyone know when Q4 allocations come out?
10-04-2021, 08:15 AM
#31
One could easily argue that this is a "weak-minded" defense you've set up here. It's not "Moneyball". It's not group think. You've set the burden of proof that you're willing to accept so high that it basically cannot be met, so you can never be proven wrong, hence you can shrug off all completely reasonable (and almost certainly correct) answers that you disagree with as "incorrect" and the truly "weak-minded". Porsche isn't going to tell you their numbers. Period. None of us are ever going to see that data, but you can look to automotive business analysts for very good information. It's amazing how easy it is to answer this with a simple Google search such as "porsche margin per model. Here's a Bloomberg article from 2019 on this very subject.
Here's another great article on this subject .
Another article from Motor1 on 911 profits.
Here's another great article on this subject .
Another article from Motor1 on 911 profits.
Try and keep up, ok?
10-04-2021, 09:04 AM
#32
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Back to the OP question of when will allocations be released. I had been told early October. I called my CA and he said that the release on allocations have been pushed to early November. Northeast (NJ) dealer.
10-04-2021, 10:23 AM
#33
I would think this is correct. I'm waiting on my Touring allocation timeline and was told this past week they should have a better idea in November which, to me, indicates they won't get their next set of allocation until then,
10-04-2021, 11:59 AM
#34
Burning Brakes
this line of thinking is how conspiracy theories gain traction, just saying... If everyone says 2+2=4 and you believe otherwise, odds are you're the one that's wrong.
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10-04-2021, 02:43 PM
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10-04-2021, 02:45 PM
#36
Indeed its sounding like November is the prevailing timeline. Thanks everyone for the input.
10-04-2021, 02:47 PM
#37
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One could easily argue that this is a "weak-minded" defense you've set up here. It's not "Moneyball". It's not group think. You've set the burden of proof that you're willing to accept so high that it basically cannot be met, so you can never be proven wrong, hence you can shrug off all completely reasonable (and almost certainly correct) answers that you disagree with as "incorrect" and the truly "weak-minded". Porsche isn't going to tell you their numbers. Period. None of us are ever going to see that data, but you can look to automotive business analysts for very good information. It's amazing how easy it is to answer this with a simple Google search such as "porsche margin per model. Here's a Bloomberg article from 2019 on this very subject.
Here's another great article on this subject .
Another article from Motor1 on 911 profits.
Here's another great article on this subject .
Another article from Motor1 on 911 profits.
As part of my work, I have seen the internal financials for both VAG and Porsche SE (the controlling shareholder of VAG), and while some of the particulars may be off, the general message is on point.
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10-04-2021, 04:59 PM
#38
Three Wheelin'
"Quantitative studies rely on numerical or measurable data. In contrast, qualitative studies rely on personal accounts or documents that illustrate in detail how people think or respond within society."
This is absolutely a quantitative measure: Profit per car by type. It's measurable in numbers - you can (and I am sure Porsche does) put in on a spreadsheet. There is nothing qualitative about it. Qualitative would be something like "The more expensive cars are more fun to own" or "Higher trim models make people happier".
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10-04-2021, 06:29 PM
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Also, A+ on the deflection. Classic move. No one ever wants to simply say "I was wrong".
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10-04-2021, 07:14 PM
#40
Burning Brakes
Well, now you get the F: both for effort and accuracy since a simple Google search would give the the proper definitions.
"Quantitative studies rely on numerical or measurable data. In contrast, qualitative studies rely on personal accounts or documents that illustrate in detail how people think or respond within society."
This is absolutely a quantitative measure: Profit per car by type. It's measurable in numbers - you can (and I am sure Porsche does) put in on a spreadsheet. There is nothing qualitative about it. Qualitative would be something like "The more expensive cars are more fun to own" or "Higher trim models make people happier".
"Quantitative studies rely on numerical or measurable data. In contrast, qualitative studies rely on personal accounts or documents that illustrate in detail how people think or respond within society."
This is absolutely a quantitative measure: Profit per car by type. It's measurable in numbers - you can (and I am sure Porsche does) put in on a spreadsheet. There is nothing qualitative about it. Qualitative would be something like "The more expensive cars are more fun to own" or "Higher trim models make people happier".
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10-04-2021, 07:22 PM
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10-04-2021, 07:51 PM
#42
Burning Brakes
This sounds like the C8 Corvette forums now...sheesh.
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10-05-2021, 09:13 PM
#44
Burning Brakes
I do not have prior ownership experience but I think that should be viewed as a positive to some degree (bring a new customer into the marque, etc). So I guess I will just have to rely on dumb luck to get me through this allocation cycle. If it doesn't happen, that's OK, there will be more in the future.