A few GTS questions
#16
Just for the record, there is no structural difference between a non-sunroof and a sunroof car outside of the roof itself. The actual body is the same, they just use different inserts in the roof area and different interior trim. Of course there is a weight difference though.
Not suggesting you change your mind (we all build what we want which is good), this is just a FYI.
Not suggesting you change your mind (we all build what we want which is good), this is just a FYI.
Note the comparisons of roof vs no roof vs Cab (992 is not done yet)
http://youwheel.com/home/2016/06/20/...ehensive-list/
This goes into explaining what torsional rigidity is and what makes it different https://www.tunedtrends.com/torsional-rigidity-on-cars/
In this part one sees cages and strut bars under hoods . Sunroofs destroy this .https://www.tunedtrends.com/torsional-rigidity-on-cars/
Now I understand that if its a leisure car and one finds it fun then who cares but it is a 160K 911 . Why not make it stick to the parameters of performance ? is the little bit of occasional sunlight worth it ?
Thats the question I have wrestled with internally . I have been driving my garage queen 07 Turbo 5 days and dont miss my glass roof in my 991.2 . When I get it back I am going too see if its a happy reunion worth making the copmpromise or not but I really think its over for the glass on this 992 .
#18
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/sun...ce-and-safety/
the roof is not structural in a modern porsche. skip it for the weight if that bothers you.
the roof is not structural in a modern porsche. skip it for the weight if that bothers you.
#19
Unless you're a midget, you see the roof of your car all the time. I'm 5'11" and I really wish I hadn't gotten the glass roof. The black roof distracts from the lines of a the car (unless you have a black car). Mine is chalk. I even had someone ask me if my car was a convertible. Oh well, my C4S will get sold/traded within a few months I predict as I'm already on lists for a Targa and TT.
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SBAD (08-19-2021)
#20
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There are numerous articles and data points of torsional rigidity changes by cutting a hole in a roof and placing it in the center of the car . Not to mention adding weight at that point .https://www.thedrive.com/article/419...-get-a-sunroof
Note the comparisons of roof vs no roof vs Cab (992 is not done yet)
http://youwheel.com/home/2016/06/20/...ehensive-list/
This goes into explaining what torsional rigidity is and what makes it different https://www.tunedtrends.com/torsional-rigidity-on-cars/
In this part one sees cages and strut bars under hoods . Sunroofs destroy this .https://www.tunedtrends.com/torsional-rigidity-on-cars/
Now I understand that if its a leisure car and one finds it fun then who cares but it is a 160K 911 . Why not make it stick to the parameters of performance ? is the little bit of occasional sunlight worth it ?
Thats the question I have wrestled with internally . I have been driving my garage queen 07 Turbo 5 days and dont miss my glass roof in my 991.2 . When I get it back I am going too see if its a happy reunion worth making the copmpromise or not but I really think its over for the glass on this 992 .
Note the comparisons of roof vs no roof vs Cab (992 is not done yet)
http://youwheel.com/home/2016/06/20/...ehensive-list/
This goes into explaining what torsional rigidity is and what makes it different https://www.tunedtrends.com/torsional-rigidity-on-cars/
In this part one sees cages and strut bars under hoods . Sunroofs destroy this .https://www.tunedtrends.com/torsional-rigidity-on-cars/
Now I understand that if its a leisure car and one finds it fun then who cares but it is a 160K 911 . Why not make it stick to the parameters of performance ? is the little bit of occasional sunlight worth it ?
Thats the question I have wrestled with internally . I have been driving my garage queen 07 Turbo 5 days and dont miss my glass roof in my 991.2 . When I get it back I am going too see if its a happy reunion worth making the copmpromise or not but I really think its over for the glass on this 992 .
But in a 992, just get what you like and be happy that as far as the torsional rigidity is concerned it's pretty much irrelevant.
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TheGreatJ (08-19-2021)
#21
Unless you're a midget, you see the roof of your car all the time. I'm 5'11" and I really wish I hadn't gotten the glass roof. The black roof distracts from the lines of a the car (unless you have a black car). Mine is chalk. I even had someone ask me if my car was a convertible. Oh well, my C4S will get sold/traded within a few months I predict as I'm already on lists for a Targa and TT.
#22
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/sun...ce-and-safety/
the roof is not structural in a modern porsche. skip it for the weight if that bothers you.
the roof is not structural in a modern porsche. skip it for the weight if that bothers you.
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txpackers (08-20-2021)
#24
The net of this thread has me questioning my plan of going cabrio this time around. my 991.2 feels like it's on rails at all times and I *love* that feeling. The list of torsional rigidity measurements has the 992 at 39k and the cabs in the 11ish range.I have no concept of whether that's noticeable while driving. Cab owners I'd appreciate your input. Is there a meaningful difference in feel between driving a cab 992 and coupe?
Note the lists of torsional rigidity measurements do not break out sunroof vs not. In fact the vast majority do have a sunroof - whether glass or steel - that 39k is the number, sunroof or not.
EDIT - the 11k is from 991. Because 992 is so much stiffer - 991 coupe - my current car - is ~30k. cab 992 will prob be ~15k or so - but my question still stands.
Note the lists of torsional rigidity measurements do not break out sunroof vs not. In fact the vast majority do have a sunroof - whether glass or steel - that 39k is the number, sunroof or not.
EDIT - the 11k is from 991. Because 992 is so much stiffer - 991 coupe - my current car - is ~30k. cab 992 will prob be ~15k or so - but my question still stands.
Last edited by dhirm5; 08-19-2021 at 10:16 PM.
#26
I love my glass sunroof. It lets sunlight into a dark interior and when open it improves my driving experience by letting in more air and sound. The sun shade also works well to reduce heat when its too hot to open.