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Old Jul 3, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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Greetings,

Attached is my proposed build for my 3rd 911 (freeze point occurs on 8/26). I prefer to maintain low MSRPs, but encourage feedback.

At present, I am thinking about adding PSE with black pipes, replacing the RS Spyder's with Carrera Classic's, and dropping the extended range tank and "Porsche" logo on rear in high gloss black. These changes/dropped items will ameliorate the cost of the PSE. However, given that this is a base car, I question PSE.

My goal (as always) is to sell the car after +/- 1.5 years and jump into another P-car. As such, I prefer options that aid with resale.

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Old Jul 3, 2021 | 06:57 PM
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You really don't need Power Steering Plus unless your arms and shoulders are very weak. The standard steering is extremely easy to use, even in tight situations. I would also drop the folding mirrors. You won't have any trouble selling this car. In a year and a half buyers will line up to get a low-optioned 911 at an attractive price.
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Old Jul 3, 2021 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sker
Greetings,

Attached is my proposed build for my 3rd 911 (freeze point occurs on 8/26). I prefer to maintain low MSRPs, but encourage feedback.

At present, I am thinking about adding PSE with black pipes, replacing the RS Spyder's with Carrera Classic's, and dropping the extended range tank and "Porsche" logo on rear in high gloss black. These changes/dropped items will ameliorate the cost of the PSE. However, given that this is a base car, I question PSE.

My goal (as always) is to sell the car after +/- 1.5 years and jump into another P-car. As such, I prefer options that assist with resale.

Cheers.
I'm not much a fan of the PSE tips (...and I don't personally find the sound worth the premium over the standard exhaust, but alas, everybody values different things and everybody's ears and list of "must-haves" differs). I personally only like the gloss black badging on certain colors. You can't go wrong with either wheel choice, so I would flip a coin. I didn't opt for the extended range tank either. The tank is the same size as my previous M3's and M4's, and the ranges were fine for me. I, too, optioned power folding mirrors. I can't imagine a 120k+ car without them. I've always found them useful, and I've seen enough banged up side mirrors in my time to really appreciate being able to fold them up quickly.

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Old Jul 3, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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Contrary to what was already said, The Porsche Sports Exhaust is an absolute MUST on the C2. I cant tell you how much better I think it sounds when its on vs not. The burbles that it makes at low RPM really make me smile and make it feel like a real sports car experience. Without the PSE, the tone is boring and almost non existent with the windows closed.

To be honest, I feel the same thing about Sport Chrono... just because of the added performance you get from it... but I understand that cost has to be considered with these things.

If it were me, Id add the PSE, and skip out on power steering and changing the badging etc...

My car is Gentian Blue with Carrera Classic wheels. I like the Carrera Classics a lot, but have to admit I think I like the Spyder wheels better... having said that, going with the classics will save you a chunk of money right there, and they are still the offset 20/21 rims and look wonderful on the car. Here are a couple pics of mine on Gentian Blue...



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Skipping Sport Chrono is a mistake.
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Old Jul 3, 2021 | 08:03 PM
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You really don't need Power Steering Plus unless your arms and shoulders are very weak. The standard steering is extremely easy to use, even in tight situations. I would also drop the folding mirrors. You won't have any trouble selling this car. In a year and a half buyers will line up to get a low-optioned 911 at an attractive price.
I didn’t order it and can agree, you do not need it even remotely.
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I didn’t order it and can agree, you do not need it even remotely.
I have it and I'm very happy with it -- I've put 20k miles on my 992 C4S.
On the 992 implementation, it affects steering feel at high speed and low speed. Yes, it's different software programming for the EPAS, but it's good software. Unlike the 991, you're not able to add it after the fact.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 01:21 AM
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If planning on flipping after just 1 or 1.5 years, why not just lease?
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That is exactly what I do. I lease the car and sell it to a boutique dealer thereafter.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 07:29 AM
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That is exactly what I do. I lease the car and sell it to a boutique dealer thereafter.
Not sure I understand the benefits. If you are buying out the car after 18 months, is the boutique dealer giving you a price higher than the residual?
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Notwithstanding same, I have always (fingers crossed) been able to obtain a sales price beyond my payoff.

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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 04:28 PM
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Unfortunately, Sport Chrono adds $2,790 to my build, as such, its either SC or PSE for me. Not certain which one is better for resale.

I experienced PSE for the first time in my '20 Macan GTS, but have no experience with SC.

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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 04:40 PM
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Your comments are well taken, thank you.

Having spec'd them on 3 Macans, I love the RS Spyders, however, something is going to have to give.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 04:53 PM
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If you are looking just at resale value then spend a little more and build an “S”. Looking at the market over the past 10-15 years an S retains its value better then over the standard car. I agree that if you are planning on keeping any new car only 1.5 years, lease it. You can do a 36 month lease and if you keep the miles in check I’ve seen people sell their leased cars back to the dealer for what they owe or sometimes have some equity. I agree, skipping Sport Chrono is a mistake. Just my two cents, I built my 2021 C2S with rear steering, sport package which includes sport chrono and exhaust…$138500 MSRP. I traded my 991.2 S and the was very happy with what it was worth.
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This is what I’d do to keep the price within your window. I would dispense with the fluff and extra weight and just get the stuff that adds to performance that will be desirable later. If you’re truly flipping, don’t build the car for you but for what someone else is going to want. A lot of people who build low option 911s are trying to buy the lightest version while maximizing performance.

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