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Old Jun 27, 2021 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Nibiru12
Great, fair enough, I apologize for calling you smoking snake oil, you did have a source.

But the same tuning company posted another plot, more thorough, more broad rpm ranges, without factor multiplied, and it shows a slightly different story.

Your plot starts at 2500 rpm, but the car idles at 800-900 rpm, and Porsche claims peak torque for the base starts at 1950 rpm.

From the plot here, at 2000 rpm, the base torque is about 300 lb-ft, while S has about 320 lb-ft, only about 20 lb-ft difference.

As rpm increases, difference gets bigger, which is more in-line with what I felt during test drive.


Per professional reviewers, in Harry's garage, his favorite Porsche was the 992 Turbo S, then if he'd buy one, he'd choose 718 GT4, then 992 base, and then 992 S.

Car and Driver also got nothing but praise for the base, except the plastic interior which is the standard for S as well and could be upgraded in both models.

Automobile magazine says get an S if you need manual tranny, otherwise stick with the base.

Other reviewers all favor the base too, did not see anything negative so far, so for "most" people I don't think S is an obvious choice over the base and worth the extra $14-$16k.


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Old Jun 27, 2021 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ohniner
I really believe you can live very happily without sport chrono or sport exhaust. Unfortunately I'm in a tiny group that think that as the vast majority or rennlisters believe they are absolutely necessary. And these or others like them will be your buyers when its time to sell so listen to what they say.
I am with you. I have never owned or driven a car with Sport Chrono so I do not miss not having it. I am more than happy with my base C2, it is plenty fast enough for me.
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Old Jun 27, 2021 | 11:41 PM
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Both of my 991.1 Carrera's were not equipped with Sport Chrono, (PDK Cars) yet both had Launch Control. Can anyone confirm if it is the same for the 992?
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Old Jun 27, 2021 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vista6019
Both of my 991.1 Carrera's were not equipped with Sport Chrono, (PDK Cars) yet both had Launch Control. Can anyone confirm if it is the same for the 992?
the 992 only has launch control when equipped with the Sport Chrono Package. I can confirm that this is true. If you option WITHOUT the chrono package, you lose the clock/stop watch, you lose the steering wheel drive mode selection ****, you lose Sport+ setting, you lose Launch control, and the car is slightly slower to 60mph by about 0.2 seconds.
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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nibiru12
Haha, I am a STEM grad, if you call STEM as something special and proud, not dissing it as a worthless BS degree like I do, YOU are probably not a STEM grad.

BTW, lb-ft is a convention, like lightyear is a unit of distance, not time, or eV is unit of mass sometimes.

Torque as a cross product of vectors, it is expressed position vector X force vector, and as you should well know, I highly doubt though, cross product is not commutative.

If you reverse it, the vector will point to the opposite direction, right? :P
Wrong! Torque = force x radius and is linear. There is no vector involved. 2x4 = 8 and 4x2 = 8.
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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 09:11 AM
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Piling on here.. but definitely spec it with Sports Chrono - this should not even be an "option". It's a different car with it and you won't be sorry.
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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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When I was looking for a pre-owned 991.2 Cab, I quickly passed over any 911 without the dash wart.

Get Sport Chrono.
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