The cabriolet window thingy
06-20-2021, 04:06 PM
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The cabriolet window thingy
I noticed a glitch just now that commonly has been reported here:
When I either open or close my top, the final stage at the end (both windows closing) doesn’t happen unless I do it manually.
Obviously a minor issue, but how have others resolved this? Do I actually have to go back to the dealer to have them reset whatever little algorithm is malfunctioning here or is there something I can do myself?
Incidentally, when I push the ‘M’ button to switch to manual mode the light doesn’t come on, even though it still switches modes. That’s another issue I’ve seen commonly reported here. Small potatoes stuff, of course, but I wonder if this and the window issue are related? I’ve seen others complain about these two issues simultaneously before.
When I either open or close my top, the final stage at the end (both windows closing) doesn’t happen unless I do it manually.
Obviously a minor issue, but how have others resolved this? Do I actually have to go back to the dealer to have them reset whatever little algorithm is malfunctioning here or is there something I can do myself?
Incidentally, when I push the ‘M’ button to switch to manual mode the light doesn’t come on, even though it still switches modes. That’s another issue I’ve seen commonly reported here. Small potatoes stuff, of course, but I wonder if this and the window issue are related? I’ve seen others complain about these two issues simultaneously before.
06-20-2021, 04:33 PM
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I've noticed for the last few months as I open the convertible top more that my rear passenger side window sometimes doesn't close all the way when putting my top up - it'll stay half open at the end of the convertible closing sequence, only the rear passenger side. When that happens and I attempt to fully close the window using the button on the door the window will first close all the way but then open halfway back down again, What I found to work is instead of holding the button pulled up to close it fully, I stutter pulling up the button, and then it will fully close after 2-3 pulls. I'll have the dealer look at it the next time I bring it in for something else.
I thought it might be a SmartTop issue since one of the settings for that device involves windows up/down when you open/close the top- do you have that mod installed? If not, then it's likely a Porsche software glitch.
I thought it might be a SmartTop issue since one of the settings for that device involves windows up/down when you open/close the top- do you have that mod installed? If not, then it's likely a Porsche software glitch.
06-20-2021, 04:57 PM
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^ No, I don’t have Smarttop
I think it’s a glitch that Porsche can probably reset in 5 min, my concern is if this becomes a recurring thing whether I can do anything about it myself instead of having to go to the dealer.
Again, in the big scheme of things this is a pretty minor nuisance, but still....
I think it’s a glitch that Porsche can probably reset in 5 min, my concern is if this becomes a recurring thing whether I can do anything about it myself instead of having to go to the dealer.
Again, in the big scheme of things this is a pretty minor nuisance, but still....
06-20-2021, 05:34 PM
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I've noticed for the last few months as I open the convertible top more that my rear passenger side window sometimes doesn't close all the way when putting my top up - it'll stay half open at the end of the convertible closing sequence, only the rear passenger side. When that happens and I attempt to fully close the window using the button on the door the window will first close all the way but then open halfway back down again, What I found to work is instead of holding the button pulled up to close it fully, I stutter pulling up the button, and then it will fully close after 2-3 pulls. I'll have the dealer look at it the next time I bring it in for something else.
I thought it might be a SmartTop issue since one of the settings for that device involves windows up/down when you open/close the top- do you have that mod installed? If not, then it's likely a Porsche software glitch.
I thought it might be a SmartTop issue since one of the settings for that device involves windows up/down when you open/close the top- do you have that mod installed? If not, then it's likely a Porsche software glitch.
Also noticed this seemed to happen when the car was running. Never saw it happen when I had the car shut off and was closing the top with the remote.
ETA. I contacted Mods 4Cars about it at one time and they wanted the s/n of the module. Meant I had to take things apart and never got around to doing it.
Last edited by OliverK68; 06-20-2021 at 05:38 PM.
06-20-2021, 05:36 PM
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Burning Brakes
I noticed a glitch just now that commonly has been reported here:
When I either open or close my top, the final stage at the end (both windows closing) doesn’t happen unless I do it manually.
Obviously a minor issue, but how have others resolved this? Do I actually have to go back to the dealer to have them reset whatever little algorithm is malfunctioning here or is there something I can do myself?
Incidentally, when I push the ‘M’ button to switch to manual mode the light doesn’t come on, even though it still switches modes. That’s another issue I’ve seen commonly reported here. Small potatoes stuff, of course, but I wonder if this and the window issue are related? I’ve seen others complain about these two issues simultaneously before.
When I either open or close my top, the final stage at the end (both windows closing) doesn’t happen unless I do it manually.
Obviously a minor issue, but how have others resolved this? Do I actually have to go back to the dealer to have them reset whatever little algorithm is malfunctioning here or is there something I can do myself?
Incidentally, when I push the ‘M’ button to switch to manual mode the light doesn’t come on, even though it still switches modes. That’s another issue I’ve seen commonly reported here. Small potatoes stuff, of course, but I wonder if this and the window issue are related? I’ve seen others complain about these two issues simultaneously before.
06-20-2021, 09:35 PM
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i don't have Smart Top, but I have had the back window only closing half way about half a dozen times, although I have probably closed my top at least 50 times since I have had the car. Like others, I fool with closing and opening with the buttons, and eventually all is well. Even in my old 997.1, I sometimes had to reset the windows when they would not fully close. I am not sure if the back window is feeling some kind of resistance the causes it to not fully close.
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06-21-2021, 08:12 AM
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i don't have Smart Top, but I have had the back window only closing half way about half a dozen times, although I have probably closed my top at least 50 times since I have had the car. Like others, I fool with closing and opening with the buttons, and eventually all is well. Even in my old 997.1, I sometimes had to reset the windows when they would not fully close. I am not sure if the back window is feeling some kind of resistance the causes it to not fully close.
06-21-2021, 10:02 AM
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This may or may not be the same thing . . . I have this problem occasionally on my 991.1 cab. On my car, the issue is the seal inside the door on the rear-side of the rear window. As the window goes up, it sometimes catches on the seal and thinks there's something impeding it from going up (like a child's hand), and so it automatically retracts back down. I think this is called something like the "anti-pinching" feature. So I use a silicon seal lubricant sprayed directly into the door at the rear of the window. I then bring the window up and down a few times to lubricate the seal and the problem's solved. Anyway, mine is a five year old car with five year old seals, so the problem may be different for newer cars. And fwiw, I do have Smartop.
06-21-2021, 10:17 AM
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This may or may not be the same thing . . . I have this problem occasionally on my 991.1 cab. On my car, the issue is the seal inside the door on the rear-side of the rear window. As the window goes up, it sometimes catches on the seal and thinks there's something impeding it from going up (like a child's hand), and so it automatically retracts back down. I think this is called something like the "anti-pinching" feature. So I use a silicon seal lubricant sprayed directly into the door at the rear of the window. I then bring the window up and down a few times to lubricate the seal and the problem's solved. Anyway, mine is a five year old car with five year old seals, so the problem may be different for newer cars. And fwiw, I do have Smartop.
At the end of the open or close cycle, the windows on both sides just aren't going up. I'm pretty sure it's just something electronic related