Manual Steering
#1
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Question](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif)
I received a call from my dealer SA yesterday. My new 21 C2S Cab is being held in San Diego for TPMS and a Electronic Steering chip. He said the TPMS should be resolved in a week or so.
Here is where I have questions. He said they may install manual steering now and my dealer would install electronic steering at a later date as a recall.
Anyone have a clue what manual steering means? I ordered the car with the standard steering.
Here is where I have questions. He said they may install manual steering now and my dealer would install electronic steering at a later date as a recall.
Anyone have a clue what manual steering means? I ordered the car with the standard steering.
#2
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
My guess is there will be no electric assist. Can’t imagine how difficult that would be at parking speeds.
#3
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Umm...I don't think so
First of all - I'm not entirely sure an EPS car will steer without assist.
Second - have you ever driven a car with blown power steering? It's practically undrivable at low speeds. Manual steering racks have different gearing ratios from a powered unit.
First of all - I'm not entirely sure an EPS car will steer without assist.
Second - have you ever driven a car with blown power steering? It's practically undrivable at low speeds. Manual steering racks have different gearing ratios from a powered unit.
Last edited by rk-d; 05-15-2021 at 03:23 PM.
The following users liked this post:
detansinn (05-15-2021)
#4
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
There’s nothing wrong with a manual steering rack, but I am not sure that I would want a car with EPAS delete.
#6
Rennlist Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Orange County California
Posts: 2,849
Received 2,711 Likes
on
1,277 Posts
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Another thing to consider. With power steering the alignment of the front wheels is significantly different than it is with manual steering. With power steering far more of a Caster Angle is used in the alignment of the front wheels. This provides a very nice "on center" feel when everything is working correctly. However, shut the power steering system off and this Caster Angle makes moving the wheels off center a real bugger. The physical dynamic, is that you're trying to raise the car (slightly) with the steering system. That you're trying to do this without the benefit of a hydraulic or electric assist, can make this something of a challenge.
The following users liked this post:
aggie57 (05-15-2021)
#7
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
THis here...is the culprit. Pretty good synopsis of current situation.
Trending Topics
#8
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
The chip to which SA's referring might handle some aspect of LKA auto-steering duties. No chip, no auto lane correction and "steering" is manual. Just a guess.
Last edited by gcurnew; 05-16-2021 at 11:24 AM.
The following users liked this post:
sanford (05-16-2021)
#9
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Thanks for all of the info. I should have included my options list:
Exterior Color 3H Chalk
1V Cabriolet Roof in Black
KA Leather Interior in Black with Chalk Stitching
0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.)
0N5 Rear Axle Steering
0NC "911 Carrera S" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black 0P9 Sport Exhaust System incl. Tailpipes in Black
2UH Front Axle Lift System
2ZC Heated Steering Wheel
3J7 Porsche Crest on Headrests
6FU Exterior Mirror Lower Trim and Base in Exterior Color
6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors
7Y1 Lane Change Assist (LCA)
8LH Sport Chrono Package
9VL BOSE® Surround Sound System
KA6 Surround View
KQ2 "PORSCHE" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black
Q2J Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Since, I did not go for steering assist, I’m wondering if I misunderstood the SA or he misunderstood PNA.
Exterior Color 3H Chalk
1V Cabriolet Roof in Black
KA Leather Interior in Black with Chalk Stitching
0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.)
0N5 Rear Axle Steering
0NC "911 Carrera S" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black 0P9 Sport Exhaust System incl. Tailpipes in Black
2UH Front Axle Lift System
2ZC Heated Steering Wheel
3J7 Porsche Crest on Headrests
6FU Exterior Mirror Lower Trim and Base in Exterior Color
6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors
7Y1 Lane Change Assist (LCA)
8LH Sport Chrono Package
9VL BOSE® Surround Sound System
KA6 Surround View
KQ2 "PORSCHE" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black
Q2J Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Since, I did not go for steering assist, I’m wondering if I misunderstood the SA or he misunderstood PNA.
#10
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Adding the Power Steering option only changes the tune on the steering. The car still has electric power steering even if you don’t choose that option.
The following users liked this post:
sanford (05-16-2021)
#11
#12
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
That may not be the case with PSP on the 992. Apparently, unlike the 991, it can’t be enabled on a car that didn’t have it from the factory. So, there may be some other difference at play.
The following users liked this post:
rk-d (05-16-2021)
#13
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Thanks for all of the info. I should have included my options list:
Exterior Color 3H Chalk
1V Cabriolet Roof in Black
KA Leather Interior in Black with Chalk Stitching
0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.)
0N5 Rear Axle Steering
0NC "911 Carrera S" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black 0P9 Sport Exhaust System incl. Tailpipes in Black
2UH Front Axle Lift System
2ZC Heated Steering Wheel
3J7 Porsche Crest on Headrests
6FU Exterior Mirror Lower Trim and Base in Exterior Color
6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors
7Y1 Lane Change Assist (LCA)
8LH Sport Chrono Package
9VL BOSE® Surround Sound System
KA6 Surround View
KQ2 "PORSCHE" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black
Q2J Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Since, I did not go for steering assist, I’m wondering if I misunderstood the SA or he misunderstood PNA.
Exterior Color 3H Chalk
1V Cabriolet Roof in Black
KA Leather Interior in Black with Chalk Stitching
0I2 Extended Range Fuel Tank (23.7 gal.)
0N5 Rear Axle Steering
0NC "911 Carrera S" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black 0P9 Sport Exhaust System incl. Tailpipes in Black
2UH Front Axle Lift System
2ZC Heated Steering Wheel
3J7 Porsche Crest on Headrests
6FU Exterior Mirror Lower Trim and Base in Exterior Color
6XV Power Folding Exterior Mirrors
7Y1 Lane Change Assist (LCA)
8LH Sport Chrono Package
9VL BOSE® Surround Sound System
KA6 Surround View
KQ2 "PORSCHE" Logo on Rear in High Gloss Black
Q2J Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Since, I did not go for steering assist, I’m wondering if I misunderstood the SA or he misunderstood PNA.
Not related to “Power Steering”, though I can understand the confusion.
#15
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter