rdv

Younger buyer these days (I.e., future 911 buyers) are far more open to the idea of hybrid sports cars. Porsche will build and market what their (future) customers want so I anticipate it will build a hybrid 911 (and possibly a full BEV version). Get over it. But it’s precisely this likely scenario that motivated me to buy our 992 now. I would not be interested in a hybrid 911. I will echo a point made by a couple of others re 48 volt electric assist “sandwich” motor/generators. My MBZ E53 has that set up that compliment its turbo inline 6 and although it works well I wouldn’t want it for my 911 but I’m confident younger buyers will be more accepting.

malibu515

I wonder if in ten years they will offer this option ?


James Bond...You only Live Twice

rdv

Um, no, that photo is not from You Only Live Twice. That photo is from the show Mythbusters, where they cobbled together a rocket powered ejector seat for an older Jag XJS sedan to test whether one could flip a car resting on its roof with an ejector seat, which was done in Die Another Day by Pierce Brosnan as Bond in his Aston Martin. Short answer is no.

3uros

I don't anticipate a Hybrid 911 until the 994. Fingers crossed Porsche really does something with those synthetic fuels and actually can keep an ICE around longer. If that's the case then maybe the car industry will follow the watch industry, i.e. what Quartz did to mechanical watches in the 70's. High-end/Special brands will retain some sort of ICE while all mainstream brands will go electric.

SamD

Isn't the vaunted 918 a hybrid?

ipse dixit

It’s also over a $1M.

AlexCeres

yup. It’s amazing. It’s also mid engined and definitely not a 911

kwikit356

In some ways I feel sorry for you younger guys. I will be long dead and gone by the time these possible abominations infest our sacred cars. I have no problem with BEVs, just not in a 911. I'm planning to buy a 992, probably MY2023. After that I will have no further need of a newer 911, which is pretty selfish on my part, since I've lived through all the greatest years of the ICE. The real issue for me is whether or not I will be able to afford to keep my 993 along with a 992. The 993 is simply sublime to drive at speeds where new 911s have not yet awakened.

I can imagine having a very small BEV, like some that are now available in Europe, for all local driving needs. Simply being an A to B appliance is fine, as long as I still have an ICE 911 if the road is calling. I also imagine that a hybrid 911 would be extraordinarily fast, but at the cost of significant extra weight, impacting every aspect of agile handling, notwithstanding electronic wizards designed to deceive us. Oh well, at least I can honestly say I've had a fanf**kingtastic time driving these cars. I hope they're still here for the rest of you for a long, long time.

nyca

It's not Porsche doing this, its the western governments - elected by people to whom climate change is a religion now. That's where it has to be stopped. If it's not, then indeed its all over for cars like this. The pre-owned market for them will be strong forever.

r00t61

Younger drivers don't care about cars. They think of them as an expensive annoyance. They are perfectly happy using ridesharing services for transport.

The ones that are willing to buy/own a car, they want something that's cheap, and fully electric. They want to buy an appliance, like a Model 3, for the same price as a current, stripped out Fiat Panda.

They literally couldn't care less about a hybrid 911 sports car that does 0-60 in 2.0 seconds and will cost $200K.

It's a moot point anyway. Western governments are rapidly converging to a point where personal ownership of a non-autonomous car - especially a non-autonomous ICE car - will become illegal. The only cars allowed on the road will be autonomous, owned by the government - well, more like owned by the subcontractor picked by the government - and rented to you, the middle-class lumpenproletariat, on a per-trip basis.

detansinn

When I go to Cars and Coffee, I see so many young car photographers and enthusiasts that I think that the assertion “kids don’t care about cars anymore” isn’t reality. Add in the number of millennials that I see driving 996s and older BMWs, the future looks very bright.

There is no government take over of cars coming or mandate for autonomous vehicles. We may reach a point where autonomous vehicles are cheaper to insure, but drivers will not be disappearing in our lifetime. Tesla seems to be doing their best to make autonomous vehicles so highly scrutinized and regulated that Elon may have single handedly set things back a decade. So, I wouldn’t give this much worry.

As for the switch to EVs, it’s already happening. If more EVs on the road allow us to enjoy our ICE 911s, great. There is a lot of infrastructure to be addressed, but governments are putting the pressure and dollars in to make it all happen.

Gas stations aren’t closing anytime soon, but I won’t be surprised to be paying north of $10/gallon as demand drops and taxes increase. The increase in gas prices isn’t going affect 911 owners — would you stop driving your car paying $10/gallon? I suspect that most 911 owners will simply pay it. Of course, the increase in fuel cost will affect the poor and put ICE cars out of reach of many households, but it wouldn’t be the first thing priced out of the American experience.

Porsche is pushing eFuels, because the rising prices for gasoline will probably make synthetic fuels cost effective within the next 15-20 years. eFuels are all about allowing enthusiasts, to be clear affluent enthusiasts, to continue to enjoy their ICE cars. When Porsche branded eFuel lands at $100 for a 5 gallon can, remember this post back from 2021.

Nibiru12

Isn't 911 now water cooled?

Anyone here ok with that??

fast1

But the Porsche goal is to produce 100% electric cars by 2030 at the latest.

marrast

This reminds me of a horse vs. horseless carriage debate from 1907.

fast1

We all have our views of what the optimum sports car should offer, but for me the 911 reached its pinnacle with the 993. I just prefer smaller no frills cars, as apparently do many others given the premium that a 993S and especially 993 turbo command. I understand that Porsche appeals to the new breed of owners who want lots of luxury with their performance, so you have the larger, full of gadgets 911s with curb weights in the 3,263–3,770 lb range. I suspect that these will be excellent cars, but just not right for me.