981/718 platform would be 9 yrs old this year. They will sunset this platform probably around the time they launch the 992 gts. It could be that the 992 Gts get a version of the cayman 4L as compared to the gt3 4L.

I could see this as a proper send off for N/A motors before they introduce hybrid and electric drivetrain in the platform after the 992. Norway banning ICE by 2025. UK by 2030. Death clock ticking.

 

Or it could be the 718 GTS GTS 4.0 is IT and you don't get the 992 GTS and that car serves as the swan song for Porsche of the NA motor. Doubtful but point is no one knows but doubt they will do THAT (add the 4.0 motor) to the 992 given the numbers sold historically for the Cayman. It would be eating the production cost alone and they'd hardly make anything from the deal. Think most manufacturers to include Porsche are looking for ways to slim and standardize the production lines and the days of 20-40 different models for the same car are probably behind us. See them saying good bye to the Panamera in 12-24 mos; adding the 992 GTS maybe for 2022 but nixing the 992 T and 992 R folks are pining over...too low profit to make the change(s) required and get them federalized for the US. Then add maybe 718 chassis as 1st EV sports car from them or hybrid using Taycan technology then moving the 992 to a hybrid format/mixed for the next model iteration. Its June now and build allocations for June/July are for Sept/Oct cars normally so unless they drop the GTS in the next 60 days then the factory production for late Aug/Sept/Oct will already be laid out and currently that is for other 992 model production and others...so that gives you Nov-Dec-Jan after that for anything not released in the next 60 days unless Porsche does some MAJOR production reshuffling if normal production lines and flow is taken into account. Europe hasn't even seen the GTS model guys and they normally get their cars BEFORE the US remember also! From what I hear the EU 992 GT3's are just staring to trickle in also...add to it chip shortage and that puts the GTS releases even further to the right likely.

 

Any rumors on the 992 GTS having buckets as on option for the US like the 718?

 

Probably not, as the LWB do not fold, which would make getting into the back seats in the GTS worthy of only Simone Biles.

 

I don't really think the conversation changes at all if you talk about "exclusivity". The exclusivity difference between a C2, C2S, and a GTS is minimal, if any, due to the fact that any one of those can be optioned to appear as another. I think the center-lock wheels may be the only externally visible thing you can't option on a non-GTS, but I could be wrong there. So a de-badged C2 could potentially look exactly like a GTS. The only real difference between them is the performance aspect which, as you noted, isn't really noticeable...at least from a visual perspective. You would absolutely notice the performance difference between a C2 and a GTS as a driver. If you can't notice that level of horsepower and torque difference you're probably dead inside. It's fair to say that a good portion of drivers wouldn't notice the typically minor performance bump between the S and GTS. Whether or not the driver will be able to make use of the extra performance is a fair point as well.

As noted previously I'm not in a rush and willing to wait for the car that I want, so any timing issue is a moot point for me at least. You ask if anyone has seen an update. Yes. I did. A representative of Porsche told me some new information, which is why I raised it here on a thread who's subject is all about the GTS release. It's not like some random person on Reddit provided me that info. Every piece of info is "unconfirmed" until Porsche does an official announcement, but that doesn't mean we can't spot check pieces of info we receive from Porsche representatives to see if others have heard similar from representatives that they know and interact with. That's research 101. You imply that it's all speculation and a waste of time to discuss but then go on to say that it's all "fairy dust" through most of 2021, which is itself also just pure speculation.

Unlikely it would really cannibalize 718 sales much if at all. They're still wildly different cars and significantly different price points (base price is likely a $40k+ difference).

I don't think it's speculation when there have been numerous videos of the GTS testing over the last 1.5 years and you can hear it's not an NA engine.

Didn't the 991.2 have bucket seats as an option? In some of the videos of the GTS mules you can see them outfitted with bucket seats...but that could certainly just be for track testing.

 

Nope, just the T.

 

You can get the buckets in the 992 turbo. That's why I thought there was a chance with the gts given the dual purpose nature

 

I have not been able to confirm foldable buckets for the 992 GTS but you could have them in the 991.2 GTS

 

Yes! Those are the ones I was referring to. You can see them listed as an option on some of the regional Porsche sites that still have 991.2 GTS info live (example under Features > Comfort & Audio > Seats).

 

Not in the U.S.

ROW, yes.

 

Look what's all over the news today.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/fir...orsche-911-gts
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...pecs-revealed/
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...t-look-review/
https://www.thedrive.com/news/41227/...ck-with-473-hp

Starting to actually feel bad about doubting my SA now.

 

Well nice..stand partially corrected. They announced it earlier than the fall auto shows when normally they like to do their big reveals. COVID19 really has stood things on its head to a degree as now they just seem to slip these out there. I still stand by my thoughts and prediction that we won't see this car in the US until 2022 in customer's hands and US roads in any real number. Maybe half a dozen but unless allocations and supply break free miraculously its still awfully difficult to secure an allocation almost everywhere in the US currently....at least for most mortal individuals and in the normal ways methods and places.

 

It states on their website that they're 2022 deliveries, which makes sense seeing as a month ago people were already getting November/December delivery dates on their builds. I'm still shocked that they released both the GT3 Touring and GTS without any kind of event being tied to it. I assume that they're just too far behind schedule on release timings and can no longer afford to wait or it'll start impacting the 992.2 timelines (if they're not already impacted).

 

That as said but I think its because the world is so jacked up due to the last 16-18 mos on lockdown from the pandemic and Europe still is behind the US in vaccinations and openings so things like new model released became less planned/organized and funded and done as before. Ad too it no real car shows to go to public and/or auto journalist and then the fact that production schedules are just off the charts for some models with delays due to a whole combo of things to include increased demand and shortages in supply...then the release of the GT3, GT3 touring, Taycan CT, and now the GTS have been just afterthoughts. Little info and no idea of really when you can get one IF you can find one at a reasonable price w/out ADM a a few thousand if luckily. Those in Canada are bumping up against new tax laws too which make it likely ANY GTS ordered even now IF a dealer has an allocation will be a 2022 car with a 2022 delivery date as you seem to agree also. My previous comments on the forums were related to those who said they had an allocation at their dealer already (they didn't exist and still don't technically) and others who say it was gonna get released in Apr then May (My vote was summer Jun-July-Aug at earliest but possibly Sept-Oct-Nov also announcements) and they would have cars this summer. Freakin impossible! Given the current production scheduling and shortages of chips and still closures of some parts of facilities in Europe isn't helping. So nice to see lots of 992's out there in the lineup but ordering and getting one? Good Luck!