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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 08:28 AM
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According to Waze, GPS radar detector and town speed signs my speedometer is optimistic.

60mph on speedometer = 58mph
70mph = 67mph
80mph = 76mph

My Ford Bronco Sport display actual speed.

Any reason Porsche can't display the accurate speed?
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 08:32 AM
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Mine is about the same. 80mph in the speedo was about 78mph on Waze
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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I actually did a long trip for work this week (over 300 miles each way). On the drive up to my first leg, I noticed the exact same thing. On the drive back, I also used another GPS tracker on my phone to see if what Waze was saying was right. I also was 2-4mph under what the speedo was saying - so your numbers are exactly what mine were saying. Now I do have my winters on which are 19/20s and not the 20/21s but I think they have the same rolling circumference so that should not be it. Seems like the speedo is off a bit for sure.

On the plus side - I averaged 31.4 MPG on the trip, which is better than any car I own by a long shot. Much of it was highway going 75-80mph (speedo wise), but did have quite a bit of city as well, as I drove from Cincy to Chicago and was downtown for a couple of days.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 08:40 AM
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I guess margin for error to counter things like tire wear, different sizes etc.. In some jurisdictions the tolerance for speeding is as low as 2 mph, above that you get a ticket, so over reading by a couple of mph or km/h isn't such a bad thing.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 09:17 AM
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My 2020 992 speedo is consistently 2mph too high (i.e., reads 82 = 80). I have 20" / 21" standard tires. All of the Porsche's my wife and I have owned have read high by 2-4 mph. My 2004 996 TT was always 4mph high. When I complained to SA early on (2003) they said that was normal / typical for Porsche's and history has seemed to bear that out.

The ONLY real issue I had was I once found (and I haven't checked this yet on the 992) is the odometer was also a little too quick, as in it showed a mile before it really was (I measured it using the old road, measured mile at the time on a particular piece of highway). This paid off later in the life of that particular Porsche when I had a part fail just outside of the warranty (according to the odometer), and I got it covered since I could easily show that it really should have been mathematically.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kal-El
According to Waze, GPS radar detector and town speed signs my speedometer is optimistic.

60mph on speedometer = 58mph
70mph = 67mph
80mph = 76mph

My Ford Bronco Sport display actual speed.

Any reason Porsche can't display the accurate speed?
Most manufacturers have been purposely installing speedometers with higher than actual readings for liability reasons. If you were ticketed for speeding or worse involved in an accident when you thought you were within the posted limit but then proven you were exceeding it due to a faulty speedometer, it would be a lawyers field day.
Most speedometers read 2-4% higher than actual for that very reason.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 11:32 AM
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My first 911 a87 Carrera was 10% fast 70 miles an hour was only 63. Looks like they’re getting better. Carl
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 12:06 PM
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My BWM did that and it was super annoying! Plus, it adds mileage to your vehicle that you didn't really travel. I guess it is one way to "improve" fuel mileage. What's next? A fuel gauge that tricks you into adding fuel when you don't need it? And temperature gauges faking you out? I think drivers of high end sports cars deserve accurate gauges. If get a ticket because I'm speeding, so be it!
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 12:12 PM
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Working in the industry I can tell you it is largely outdated technology BS. There are still big fines for under calling the vehicle speed. However, most vehicles have GPS now even if a navigation system is not enabled. This means that the speedometer can self calibrate from the GPS at any time and display actual speeds. The industry just continues to not do this for whatever reasons.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 01:06 PM
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There is a company "Healtech" that makes a frequency converter for motorcycles called the "SpeedoHealer". It plugs into the wiring between the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) and the computer that reads the VSS for the Speedometer. You can easily and accurately calibrate your speedometer. I have one on my Honda Goldwing and it works like a charm. Hopefully someone comes up with a similar product for our cars at some point. Here's a link to the Healtech website for anyone who might be interested: https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/sh/
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My 2020 911 Carrera S Coupe speed reading is exactly on with local speed indicators but my 2013 Cayenne GTS is 3 mph optimistic at speeds of 40-60 mph.

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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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Ditto ... my 2021 C4S just received a month ago displays speed actually 2 mph more than actual speed. OEM tires, nothing tampered with.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 01:41 PM
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Surprised this is news to anyone. Germans have been doing this for as long as I can remember.
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 991.1 Guy
My BWM did that and it was super annoying! Plus, it adds mileage to your vehicle that you didn't really travel. I guess it is one way to "improve" fuel mileage. What's next? A fuel gauge that tricks you into adding fuel when you don't need it? And temperature gauges faking you out? I think drivers of high end sports cars deserve accurate gauges. If get a ticket because I'm speeding, so be it!
This has been happening for years
where the fuel gauge drops slower at the top end as compared to the lower end , to give customers the false feeling that their cars does good on gas mileage
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 02:16 PM
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Something about the four satellites traveling at 7,000 mph at an altitude of 22,000 miles above earth vs the speedometer in the car that leaves me in awe of modern technology.

Of course the poor speedometer is affected by tire pressure, tire temperatures, summer vs winter tires, etc..

The GPS is not 100% accurate either but the government provides the GPS signal in space with a global average user range rate error (URRE) of ≤0.006 m/sec over any 3-second interval, with 95% probability.
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