Surprise! GPS tracker in my new 2021 992 S Cab
#61
Followed the wires and found the little black box while connecting battery tender eyelet cables. SA says it is LoJack device and it is turned off. I can call them to activate if I wanted to do that.
This is pic inside my door jamb and car is CPO. The same sticker is on little box, too.
This is pic inside my door jamb and car is CPO. The same sticker is on little box, too.
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For those in high crime areas, I wonder if you can just leave it in place and get an app to track your car. If it's disabled, here are some trackers from Amazon FWIW
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#63
Wild stuff. Just goes to prove, you want to be a real rebel in this day & age leave the 992 and all other surveillance devices at home and go for a walk …
Will be checking my battery tomorrow!
Will be checking my battery tomorrow!
#64
For those in high crime areas, I wonder if you can just leave it in place and get an app to track your car. If it's disabled, here are some trackers from Amazon FWIW
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=gps+trackers
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https://www.amazon.com/s?k=gps+trackers
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No I meant buying a one off app from wherever. This subscription payment is lame for what it gives you. IMHO of course. Air tag works of course
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Just checked and no GPS tracker on mine.
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#67
Typically---these units are installed at Pre Delivery Inspection (PDI) on every new car. F&I will try to sell you on the service at completion of sale. Dealership will activate unit if you want this "theft tracker".
These units are inexpensive so it does not matter that dealer puts them on every new car.
These units are inexpensive so it does not matter that dealer puts them on every new car.
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Given I bought the car in CT and would never see the dealer again, not to mention it was an (extremely) painful process, they probably guessed I wasn't going to opt for that or anything else they proposed (Xpel, tire insurance...).
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#69
Sadly I can now answer your question. Took the wife's 22 Cayenne GTS in for service because the LiPO4 battery had died on it twice. I took it to a dealer different than the selling one because I had a horrible buying experience with them. Service manager told me they found this aftermarket GPS tracker installed and that it voided my battery warranty. Now I have a fight on my hands with the original selling dealership. I bought the car CPO and had no idea they installed this crap on their cars (the car was sold new at the same dealership). I've since learned that they install this BS on all the cars sold through their dealership.
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That’s infuriating. Sorry to hear this. Hope the dealer makes good and then goes out of business.
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Sadly I can now answer your question. Took the wife's 22 Cayenne GTS in for service because the LiPO4 battery had died on it twice. I took it to a dealer different than the selling one because I had a horrible buying experience with them. Service manager told me they found this aftermarket GPS tracker installed and that it voided my battery warranty. Now I have a fight on my hands with the original selling dealership. I bought the car CPO and had no idea they installed this crap on their cars (the car was sold new at the same dealership). I've since learned that they install this BS on all the cars sold through their dealership.
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Vernin (07-25-2023)
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PLEASE mention the dealership so folks can stay away from them. From my experience, PNA won't do anything that's between you and a dealer, it's only by us not doing business with those folks that they hopefully over time will dry up and go the way the do-do bird.
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Check your cars for these BS modules and remove them. Hopefully they are easier to remove than mine which was spliced into the wiring harness in addition to being connected to the battery terminal.
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We need EVERYONE to know who may be likely to deal with that and other dealerships like that to be aware.
Yes, normally they're connected to the positive battery cable and should be easy to remove.
You can also check in the VAL for variable PVTS (Porsche Vehicle Tracking System) for version number etc. This ConCon Control unit number is tied to TSB#2229.3 with suspicions that it could or is partly responsible for LiFePO4 battery discharges. Search for that TSB and see if it applies to your car, I've covered it fully as well as my dealer Swickard Motors in Anchorage refusing to implement it under the false claim that it's VIN dependent and thus doesn't apply to my car when in fact it's vehicle and year dependent not VIN.
I'm waiting for my new VCI which will enable me to perform DoIP (preferable if implementing TSBs under Campaign rather than CanBus) and will then install the TSB myself.
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Yes, normally they're connected to the positive battery cable and should be easy to remove.
You can also check in the VAL for variable PVTS (Porsche Vehicle Tracking System) for version number etc. This ConCon Control unit number is tied to TSB#2229.3 with suspicions that it could or is partly responsible for LiFePO4 battery discharges. Search for that TSB and see if it applies to your car, I've covered it fully as well as my dealer Swickard Motors in Anchorage refusing to implement it under the false claim that it's VIN dependent and thus doesn't apply to my car when in fact it's vehicle and year dependent not VIN.
I'm waiting for my new VCI which will enable me to perform DoIP (preferable if implementing TSBs under Campaign rather than CanBus) and will then install the TSB myself.
siberian
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#74
Actually reading through this thread more carefully, I see that OP bought his cars with the "surprise" from the same dealership I bought my car with the "surprise". Seems like they've been doing it for a while.
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How is this legal? Maybe on a lease but not purchase?