Tompoodie

I would like opinions from fellow 992 aficionados about whether to delay placing an order because of the current major spike in the pandemic, which has been quite significant in Germany.
I have noted many Rennlisters have had quality-control issues with cars produced early in the pandemic in the first wave, particularly leaks and rattles.

Am I correct that the last day of production for each model year is the end of June?
I am ordering a paint to sample car which I presume will take around four months.
I'm therefore thinking of maybe placing the order in a month, targeting a build date in June, assuming I can even get an allocation, which is dubious.

There is an argument to waiting as demand is high and it's harder to get a good deal especially when not ordering off the lot. Against that argument is the possibility that there will be a dreaded particle filter for the next model year.
I am aware of the thread on the particle filter issue and there were conflicting opinions on it. If I knew that the particle filter wasn't going to be on the 2021 cars, I would be much more comfortable waiting a bit longer.

This is a thread from today discussing the scarcity of 992 allocations worldwide: "Placed an Order for C2S no build date" which would seem to indicate my wanting to time my order is a pipe dream.

Thank you in advance for opinions and information.

Thank you also for all those who helped me making my decision to order a base model.

P.S. As I used the phrase "pipe dream" in the above post, I wondered about its origin. It refers to opium use, and The phrase was first used in the Chicago Tribune in 1890 with respect to aerial navigation (of all things!).

smiles11

I have a 7/20 build MY20 car. No squeaks, rattles, leaks etc. I actually believe the factory shutdown allowed Porsche to fine-tune some of the QC issues related to early 2019 builds (Bose speaker, engine mounts, squeaks/rattles)

I also had an 11/19 build MY20 that had no issues either.

Then again, most QC complaints are magnified on RL. You won’t see those issues in MY21 or late MY20 cars.

detansinn

Nothing to worry about. I wouldn’t give up your allocation. If you want the car, do it. 👍

aggie57

Similar here, 05/20 build and my car started production before the shutdown and completed after. So it sat 1/2 built for several weeks. I did have one sunroof rattle but that was quickly fixed.

craig66

I was worried about that but I really do not think that Porsche would take the liability to put out cars that were substandard. Also take a look at the youtube videos on production. Besides being fascinating and giving one an idea of the process, the one thing that did strike me was that many of the jobs are one person jobs where distancing is entirely possible. Too early to tell but my car appears pretty solid and most parts are still on the car when I return from even a spirited drive.

Some of the annoying rattles and squeaks I seem to not have and many appeared long before Covid

russbert

OP, this is what happened to me as well and while annoying, it turned out for the best. The motor mount and Bose speaker, etc. TSB's were all addressed during the delayed production of my my 992 and it has had NO issues so far (hopefully I didn't just jinx it. LOL).

I really wouldn't worry about it. Good luck.

drcollie

HA! If you watch the 1 hour, 52 minute production video of a Porsche 992 being assembled (I know, boring) its 90% done by robotics on the frame and structure, which last time I checked were not subject to Covid. The only real handwork in the car is doing leather upholstery and building the engines.

LC200

Covid computer virus.

ipse dixit

You could wait and then get COVID yourself in the interim and die before you get your car.

Delayed gratification is gratification denied.

aintufunny

With the decision to get it made, just get it sooner rather than later.

Generally, we make sacrifices and compromises to get ahead; once ahead, you finally get to do something nice for yourself (usually later than normal because we are still in sacrifice-mode).

You can wait for covid factory impact to pass, or August off to pass, or try and time it for spring, or 2nd year model, etc etc.

Just get it (sooner preferably), enjoy it, put miles on it (and put smiles on yourself).

Carsten Doil

As you can see in various videos on YT, the 911 is a "mass product" and assembly is a highly automated process. No room for deviation. Shortage of workers results in a slow down or stop of production. But not quality issues. Another fact: business is increasing for P sports cars (assembly line of 911/Cayman/Boxster) as the current numbers tell.

Anyway, you want one? Order now. Because the sooner you order the sooner you can enjoy driving.
And you don't want to spend the summer waiting for the car instead of driving, do you?!

Russian Mafia

Assembly may be largely automated,parts and components may not be. GIGO. There's some risk. Maybe Porsche is exercising more quality control and these cars will be more reliable. We don't know. I try not to let demons run my life. When the weather warms I want to drive out into a new world, free from the grip of Covid in a new 911 and the demons ain't gonna take that from me.

ldamelio

Another vote for ASAP. QC and Covid are unrelated in this case. The early teething problems were related to the newness of the 992. Any consumer product this complicated will be more subject to flaws after a major redesign. Problems not apparent in testing surface after the product is released for widespread use. True for cars and anything else more complicated than a spoon.

Dan Nagy

Mine was produced just after the plant started up in July. No squeaks, no rattles, but the car was delivered with a bad install of the windshield seal. That had to be replaced and involved dropping the headliner and it turned into a three day ordeal. Also, I noticed that rubber seals around the doors were incorrectly fitted - some tucked under, etc., and I just had to pull them to make them lay flat. I had none of these issues on my two prior Porsches and wonder if they pulled people from the final quality check or they just wanted to push them out the door.

Tupper

Agree with others that if you want this car, the reason you’ve stated doesn’t sound worthy of delaying.

Mine was a 5/20 production car and I’ve had no significant issues. Mind you I do have the “crickety chirp at low speeds” thing but I don’t think that’s a real problem as lots of others have this sound and I’ve even heard it on cars being reviewed on YouTube or having upgrades done.