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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 06:57 PM
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When I get my T a track alignment this January for driving on the track It will be the same
Do you already know the camber and toe-in values you want to have, front and rear?
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 07:15 PM
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Here's how you should spec your T someforumdo#che thinks this is da bomb. https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRPSTTN2
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyP
After deciding on a T and having a good trawl through this thread, I realised I needed to experience RAS to see if it was right for me. (please note: I say right for me..not right or wrong, good or bad. Just the right decision for my usage and wants).

I asked PEC Silverstone to put on two cars. One with and one without RAS. My background in driving is 15+ years of Trackdaying mid and rear engined cars, Ultima GTR, MR2, 964C2, 997.2 GT3, amateur club racing in the MR2. My 992T requirements are a weekend blaster on country roads down to Goodwood and back before the sparrows are awake. I’d like to drive hard and feel as much G in medium twisties as I can. Breaking traction is not on the wish list.

In summary, the findings:


Ultra low speed (manoeuvring).
Clearly an advantage it reduces the number of point turns in Lidl, but nothing I would pay for. On second thoughts I think it might also reduce the chance of rear cerbage in multi stories. But again just a nice to have.

Low speed tight bends.
It was a pissy, rainy day. The handling course away from the PEC (no2), has a tight, awkward series of bends they call the corkscrew. In the car w/o RWS, I could manage a speed of 22mph without the car sliding out. The car with RWS, 27mph. Not much, but I defo felt I could apply a little more throttle earlier into the exit without the aids kicking in.

Higher speed corners.
well there aren’t any really. But I suppose the last series on track 1 are about as good as it gets. Nothing to report between them (remember this was in the wet). All jurgen (the consultant) said he felt was better consistency and line with RWS. I felt no difference.

low speed low friction.
Here we tried to do the low friction track WITHOUT sliding out. 25mph w/o and 30mph with.

So what did I prove? I think for me I’ve proven that traction/stability and safety will be a little better at the sort of speeds and conditions that I’m likely to take the car out in (when not wanting to take the GT3).

Quite an easy one for me. I also don’t have RAS on the 997.2 GT3 and I’m trying to make the T as different as possible in that respect.

Can’t wait for it to pitch up now!!
So much squabble over opinions, I thought I’d bring up someone who knows of what they speak. “traction, stability & safety “. I brought some of these suggestions up in a previous post as well and was told , respectively I didn’t know what I was talking about. Thank you for your thoughts LuckyP.

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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
Here's how you should spec your T someforumdo#che thinks this is da bomb. https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRPSTTN2
Titanium bolds are a must! 🤑
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
I've done a weekly search for that critter and have been unsuccessful thus far. I'll post up a link if I ever find one.
Originally Posted by Uhu
Been searching for one since October 2022. No joy, yet.
Thank you, Gents.
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Devon Racer
The reason I posted the response from the Editor to me was some on this thread who posted the Coty article took a negative rather disappointed response, in so much that it seemed they expected it to win. I totally agree with what you say, we are singing off the same hymn sheet.
Thanks for explaining and good we can agree.

Originally Posted by TheSunTheSea
Thanks for everyone’s input on our build. Lots of great ideas. Decided against RAS and FAL since I don’t think they’re options I’d care about. Went a little nuts with the leather and deviated stitching. Let me know if this build is overboard for a T: https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PR4V2L51
See my earlier remarks on your build. What about the executive lights? Especially on red maybe something worth considering (red on red).

Originally Posted by arrivederci
That's a great reason to not get race-tex visors. I've seen some methods for removing the yellow stickers from vinyl and leather sunvisors -- which I would absolutely do. But I went with Racetex and the yellow stickers look pretty permanent.
If you are left hand drivers just order a pair from UK. If you are right hand drivers just order a pair from the EU. Problem solved.
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Here is my break-in scheme I used for my T:

Originally Posted by Macboy
- first 500km (or 300 miles) not above 4000rpm
- every 200km above that you do 500rpm extra

<500km max 4000rpm
<700km max 4500rpm
<900km max 5000rpm
<1100km max 5500rpm
<1300km max 6000rpm
<1500km max 6500rpm
>1500km full redline

So that’s around 900 miles before going full redline.
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
Here's how you should spec your T someforumdo#che thinks this is da bomb. https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRPSTTN2
My GT3 Touring build is less than T spec. 😂 Our dealer sells all models, including GT models at MSRP. Just got to be willing to wait for an allocation like anything.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
My GT3 Touring build is less than T spec. 😂 Our dealer sells all models, including GT models at MSRP. Just got to be willing to wait for an allocation like anything.
There is a 2024 GT3 on YouTube at dealership here in FL, Posted today. White with black. No waiting .
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 09:44 PM
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 09:46 PM
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You asked me to stay off your posts. I respectfully did so. Then you go and dig back in. Okay.

Originally Posted by Shortseller
So much squabble over opinions, I thought I’d bring up someone who knows of what they speak. “traction, stability & safety “. I brought some of these suggestions up in a previous post as well and was told , respectively I didn’t know what I was talking about. Thank you for your thoughts LuckyP.
1. As you can see, I'm not alone in thinking you don't know what you're talking about.
2. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what the original T was about and you don't know what the previous or current T generations are about either.
3. You weren't talking about "traction, stability, or safety" when I said you don't know what you're talking about, at least not in the above posts. You weren't even talking about RAS.
4. You are a noob. Nothing wrong with that but this is your first Porsche and your first 911. Don't you think it's prudent to have a different approach other than assume you know it all?

I am in no way what whatsoever an expert on Porsche or the 911. However, I have dreamt of owning a Porsche since I was in my teens, bought my first 911 at 28 and have owned Porsches for 23 years. I have been with PCA for 18 years and I currently own four Porsches of the 13 or so I've owned over the years. I also read things like 000 Magazine and been on this forum since 2006 as you can see, so I've had time to pick up a few things along the way. Among them is the knowledge that in the 70's, the then CEO wanted to discontinue the 911 in favor of the 928 and 944, something nobody at the factory was excited about. He was replaced by Peter Schultz in 1981, who vowed the 911 would always be produced and whom you can thank for the car you're about to buy now. Though busy most of his tenure returning the company to profitability, he really wanted Porsche to return to it's motorsports roots but ran out of time. Before he left though, he created the 3.2 Clubsport, which was the first "RS" since the 2.7 but with no time to develop a motorsport engine, he used a Carrera one. This car was a stripper with light weight glass, revised suspension, zero options, and a bit of magic dust from the factory that made it a tad more powerful than a normal Carrera. A proper RS was developed and launched with the following generation, the 964. The Clubsport is the car PAG wanted to reintroduce with the 991.2 generation but BMW now owned the rights to the name so PAG had to dig back in their files and pick another name that closely resembled the intent of the Clubsport. The best they could do was the T. However, if you look at what the original T was, there is little connection or resemblance with the current T, because, well, it's actually a Clubsport. This is what, seemingly by fluke, you are in the fortunate position to be acquiring... an RS (or GT in today's parlance) with a Carrera engine. Obviously, there's a lot more to an RS now and the then RS is now better referred to as the GT department, with the RS being the pinnacle car from said department. But if you compare the performance of say the 991 GT3 and the 992 T, engine aside, there are overlaps.

The point being here @Shortseller, that when you suggest that the T is nothing more than a base with a manual or that PAG is somehow ripping you off by giving you less and charging you more for it (apparently you also don't know that Porsche was founded on the principles of light weight and reliability, but I digress) you are not coming across as someone who knows what they are talking about, which is what I respectfully tried to help you see. Your best response was for me to ignore your posts, which I proceeded to do until now. Some advice: if you don't what your dumb comments being called out, perhaps consider not saying or doing dumb things.
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by arrivederci
That's a great reason to not get race-tex visors. I've seen some methods for removing the yellow stickers from vinyl and leather sunvisors -- which I would absolutely do. But I went with Racetex and the yellow stickers look pretty permanent.
I'm in the same situation. I'd done some digging in other threads and read where others have had good results using Acetone to remove those pesky yellow nanny-state warning stickers from our Race-Tex visors. I'm going to go back and thoroughly read those posts again before attempting though
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Originally Posted by BaxterPup
I'm in the same situation. I'd done some digging in other threads and read where others have had good results using Acetone to remove those pesky yellow nanny-state warning stickers from our Race-Tex visors. I'm going to go back and thoroughly read those posts again before attempting though
Don’t do it. I tried on leather sun visors and didn’t get the result I wanted. If the yellow sticker bothers you, get some black leather tape to cover them.
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Uhu
Been searching for one since October 2022. No joy, yet.
The minicamps models of the 991.2t were done as a small batch by a French firm called cartima. Anyone feel adventurous to reach out to them and work out a group buy. I know I would be interested.
Old Dec 18, 2023 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BaxterPup
I'm in the same situation. I'd done some digging in other threads and read where others have had good results using Acetone to remove those pesky yellow nanny-state warning stickers from our Race-Tex visors. I'm going to go back and thoroughly read those posts again before attempting though
If you have already made the investment, I hope your solution is successful. If you didn't spec the car with them, sun coast always offers the European (sans label) version. That is what I have done on the past.



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