lucycan

I have a C4S allocation that locks in a few weeks. Just found a Turbo (non S) allocation I could have. This thread is not about cost.

Car will be my DD in MN so year round. Yes I have other cars I could drive in winter but why? Here are the questions I found asking myself:

1) Assuming both cars are equipped with PASM would the Turbo ride firmer? Would it be lower? I have to assume the Turbo is lower and firmer to begin with?
2) Can I fit a 19/20 setup for winter on the Turbo like I can on the C4S? Or are the front brakes (non PCCB) bigger on the Turbo?
3) Any concerns with reliability on a first model year car? It seems there are (at least some) issues with the 2020s base and S cars. 2021 is the first year for the Turbo.

Thanks folks!

ryandarr1979

Hi Lucycan,

I’d rule out concerns about first year issues as most of your potential issues would be software/hardware shared by both platforms since 2020. The 3.7 engine is based on the 3.0 9A2 Evo which has been in these cars since 2017. If price is a non issue, and both cars are going to be daily PDK, get the one that appeals more to you. I’d normally say drive them both but may be slightly difficult getting a bead on a non S Turbo to drive. Drive a C4S if you haven’t. It’s ridiculously fast and only a few ticks slower than the Turbo. I believe the Carrera S/4S brakes and non S Turbo brakes are the same but not positive. In lieu of extra set of wheels, maybe just get tires and swap them but confident that 19/20 setup would probably work on non PCCB cars. One thing is certain, if you get the 4S, you may or may not regret getting the Turbo, but if you get the Turbo, I doubt you’ll be kicking yourself saying, “damn, should have got the 4S”.

Russian Mafia

I’m getting a 2S but if I had had a Turbo allocation staring me in the face FOMO would have won out.

Richard_Wallace

I was looking at a 991.2 turbo s, and came across the 992 C4S (with Manual Trans) at my dealer in March, I decided to go with the C4S as my DD. couple of things to consider...

1.) I have a couple of track/fast cars for weekend fun, so didn't need the extra speed - though never a bad thing mind you...
2.) Since this is my DD, and we also get some snow here in southern Ohio, I rationalized in my brain that the extra HP was not really needed.
3.) I really wanted a manual porsche, as they might not be offered much longer
4.) As my DD, the more muted look of the C4S (though not much more muted), played better for me in the ascetics department.

With that said my buddy drives his Turbos year round and loves it, he obviously is more cautious in snow, etc. even with snow tires, as it is more HP than the 4S I have. I do think having a Front End Lift on the Turbo is more necessary than the C4S with SPASM. I do not have FEL on my C4S, my buddy does on his 991.2 Turbo S, he uses it all the time, I haven't found anyplace that I have needed/missed it. (not sure how much lower the Turbo is to the ground, but appears lower).

If the 992 Turbo was out when I got mine, I would probably have opted for it. But for the reasons above I am really happy with my C4S, and I do love having the manual transmission.

detansinn

19/20 wheels won’t fit over the PCCBs.
No difference in daily drivability. No worries about quality. Neither car is slow at legal speeds on the streets. In the super legal speeds, the additional power of the Turbo makes itself known. If you want that and can afford it, get that.

lucycan

Turbo does not come with PCCBs standard. Though I believe even the non ceramics are larger than on the S cars and hence the 19/20 setup will not fit. Could be a deal breaker as we have winter 5+ months a year here.

ipse dixit

Yes, they do offer a winter tire setup for the 992 Turbo (standard iron brakes)
https://shop.4porsche.com/collection...turbo-platinum

lucycan

I can build the winter tire setup but would most likely be a 20x4 setup which is fine. Prefer 19s up front but don't think they will fit with the Turbo brakes.

detansinn

Why would it be a deal breaker? Totally worth have the two sets of wheels -- and part of the cost of ownership.
-DDA

Laguna

FWIW, I'm in Minnesota running the 20/21s with Michelin Alpin 5s on my C4S with SPASM. I haven't found the ride too stiff even with PDCC activated. Also, the Alpins aren't available in the 19/20s.

smiles11

Here we go again...

Carrera = “I don’t need an S. The base has all the power you will ever need”

Carrera S = “You will never be able to experience the full potential of the engine unless you track it”

Turbo = “I don’t need a TTS. The TT has all the power you will ever need”

Turbo S = “You will never be able to experience the full potential of the engine unless you track it”

🤪

Penn4S

Porsche TT cars are very special. The 992 TT and TTS are the best of Porsche right now. There isn’t anything the cannot do that the 4S can and in the end the TT Will be an awesome ride.

Gentian21

Buy the TT if you are going to hang out at the track with it. If the car is going to be a DD, there is virtually no public road where you could appreciate the power of the TT. All 992's are fast cars, but the TT is over the top, and probably best enjoyed on deserted runways. Also, the spoiler and side vents disturb an otherwise beautiful design. I'm getting a 2S with a manual, and I'm inclined to think that it will be a lot more fun to drive around in than the TT.

lucycan

Planning on two sets of wheels. I mean the 19/20 not being an option. More sidewall is better!

lucycan

Thanks. No plans to track the car. Funny because I think the side vents and spoiler MAKE the car. Both are beautiful, don't get me wrong.