Ranking these options - Best Two out of the four
11-23-2020, 02:24 PM
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Well, to be fair, that's 1-2% discount on the total price of the car (i.e., price of the full leather included).
But, yes, worrying about 1-2% discount on a car that's approx. 150K (or about $1500) in the grand scheme of things seems rather penny wise and pound retarded. Especially if dickering over that additional 1-2% discount means waiting X more months for your car.
Because, after all, you can always make more money. Time? Not so much.
But, yes, worrying about 1-2% discount on a car that's approx. 150K (or about $1500) in the grand scheme of things seems rather penny wise and pound retarded. Especially if dickering over that additional 1-2% discount means waiting X more months for your car.
Because, after all, you can always make more money. Time? Not so much.
On the leather thing, each their own of course. Its all just opinions, the standard interior is fine for me and for me I find that dash top airbag cut-out (in full leather) more annoying.
11-23-2020, 03:02 PM
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Here's the thing about "full" leather.
Every time you get in the car you are going to notice it.
All the touch points, the smell, the feel, the look.
If you care about leather, and how you the car makes you feel from a sensory "touch" perspective, full leather is almost a must-get. Ceteris paribus.
If you don't, well, then my apologies and you've just wasted 30 seconds of your life reading my rambling.
Every time you get in the car you are going to notice it.
All the touch points, the smell, the feel, the look.
If you care about leather, and how you the car makes you feel from a sensory "touch" perspective, full leather is almost a must-get. Ceteris paribus.
If you don't, well, then my apologies and you've just wasted 30 seconds of your life reading my rambling.
Luckily, people can choose either/both.
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11-23-2020, 04:52 PM
#33
I was intent on making a drivers car. Went with the C2, threw in SC and PSE and SSP (4 ways). Due to cold NJ days went with a heated GT steering wheel and because idiots at dusk often drive with lights off threw in LCA. That was it - a true drivers spec. In my boxster had standard interior and never felt it needed leather.
4 hours prior to build freeze I go to the dealer to check out the GT steering wheel just to make sure it was not too thick. The only 911 he had has full leather. Got into the car and saw the leather and stitching on the dash and the side doors and it looked so stylish and so cool and there and then went in and added partial leather as the only (in MY opinion) frivolous option in my otherwise perfect drivers car. (it was a $2400 option - actually 2800 but the price of my seat came down $400) My car is still a drivers car and I avoided all other options t hat I felt would detract but I know that staring at the leather dash as I sit at a red light and looking at the leather door top every time i open the door is going to make it that much more special for ME and so for a $2500 fluff purchase I am happy I did i
There is a saying: about taste there is no discussion. one of the amazing things about Porsche is the ability to truly make it yours. What is my necessity is someone else luxury and someone elses totally unecessary option.
4 hours prior to build freeze I go to the dealer to check out the GT steering wheel just to make sure it was not too thick. The only 911 he had has full leather. Got into the car and saw the leather and stitching on the dash and the side doors and it looked so stylish and so cool and there and then went in and added partial leather as the only (in MY opinion) frivolous option in my otherwise perfect drivers car. (it was a $2400 option - actually 2800 but the price of my seat came down $400) My car is still a drivers car and I avoided all other options t hat I felt would detract but I know that staring at the leather dash as I sit at a red light and looking at the leather door top every time i open the door is going to make it that much more special for ME and so for a $2500 fluff purchase I am happy I did i
There is a saying: about taste there is no discussion. one of the amazing things about Porsche is the ability to truly make it yours. What is my necessity is someone else luxury and someone elses totally unecessary option.
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11-23-2020, 04:58 PM
#34
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I was intent on making a drivers car. Went with the C2, threw in SC and PSE and SSP (4 ways). Due to cold NJ days went with a heated GT steering wheel and because idiots at dusk often drive with lights off threw in LCA. That was it - a true drivers spec. In my boxster had standard interior and never felt it needed leather.
4 hours prior to build freeze I go to the dealer to check out the GT steering wheel just to make sure it was not too thick. The only 911 he had has full leather. Got into the car and saw the leather and stitching on the dash and the side doors and it looked so stylish and so cool and there and then went in and added partial leather as the only (in MY opinion) frivolous option in my otherwise perfect drivers car. (it was a $2400 option - actually 2800 but the price of my seat came down $400) My car is still a drivers car and I avoided all other options t hat I felt would detract but I know that staring at the leather dash as I sit at a red light and looking at the leather door top every time i open the door is going to make it that much more special for ME and so for a $2500 fluff purchase I am happy I did i
There is a saying: about taste there is no discussion. one of the amazing things about Porsche is the ability to truly make it yours. What is my necessity is someone else luxury and someone elses totally unecessary option.
4 hours prior to build freeze I go to the dealer to check out the GT steering wheel just to make sure it was not too thick. The only 911 he had has full leather. Got into the car and saw the leather and stitching on the dash and the side doors and it looked so stylish and so cool and there and then went in and added partial leather as the only (in MY opinion) frivolous option in my otherwise perfect drivers car. (it was a $2400 option - actually 2800 but the price of my seat came down $400) My car is still a drivers car and I avoided all other options t hat I felt would detract but I know that staring at the leather dash as I sit at a red light and looking at the leather door top every time i open the door is going to make it that much more special for ME and so for a $2500 fluff purchase I am happy I did i
There is a saying: about taste there is no discussion. one of the amazing things about Porsche is the ability to truly make it yours. What is my necessity is someone else luxury and someone elses totally unecessary option.
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11-23-2020, 05:04 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
I was intent on making a drivers car. Went with the C2, threw in SC and PSE and SSP (4 ways). Due to cold NJ days went with a heated GT steering wheel and because idiots at dusk often drive with lights off threw in LCA. That was it - a true drivers spec. In my boxster had standard interior and never felt it needed leather.
4 hours prior to build freeze I go to the dealer to check out the GT steering wheel just to make sure it was not too thick. The only 911 he had has full leather. Got into the car and saw the leather and stitching on the dash and the side doors and it looked so stylish and so cool and there and then went in and added partial leather as the only (in MY opinion) frivolous option in my otherwise perfect drivers car. (it was a $2400 option - actually 2800 but the price of my seat came down $400) My car is still a drivers car and I avoided all other options t hat I felt would detract but I know that staring at the leather dash as I sit at a red light and looking at the leather door top every time i open the door is going to make it that much more special for ME and so for a $2500 fluff purchase I am happy I did i
There is a saying: about taste there is no discussion. one of the amazing things about Porsche is the ability to truly make it yours. What is my necessity is someone else luxury and someone elses totally unecessary option.
4 hours prior to build freeze I go to the dealer to check out the GT steering wheel just to make sure it was not too thick. The only 911 he had has full leather. Got into the car and saw the leather and stitching on the dash and the side doors and it looked so stylish and so cool and there and then went in and added partial leather as the only (in MY opinion) frivolous option in my otherwise perfect drivers car. (it was a $2400 option - actually 2800 but the price of my seat came down $400) My car is still a drivers car and I avoided all other options t hat I felt would detract but I know that staring at the leather dash as I sit at a red light and looking at the leather door top every time i open the door is going to make it that much more special for ME and so for a $2500 fluff purchase I am happy I did i
There is a saying: about taste there is no discussion. one of the amazing things about Porsche is the ability to truly make it yours. What is my necessity is someone else luxury and someone elses totally unecessary option.
NON S standard:
In Embossed Leather:
- Front seats
- Rear seats
- Rear seat center tunnel
- Steering wheel rim
- Door panel armrests
- Center console lid
Last edited by gohawks23; 11-23-2020 at 05:06 PM.
11-23-2020, 05:22 PM
#36
Pro
11-23-2020, 05:28 PM
#37
shift into manual mode and I have all the control that you have with your, how did you call it, umm umm oh that’s right - stick
The only thing I don’t have to do is push in the clutch and rev match. Oh that’s right, silly me you don’t get to Rev match either any more. 😜
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Russian Mafia (11-23-2020)
11-23-2020, 05:35 PM
#38
Actually you made me look after your post because I never considered a non S...and its standard interior is pretty much all plastic/vinyl...my post above showed S standard interior which has some leather.
NON S standard:
In Embossed Leather:
NON S standard:
In Embossed Leather:
- Front seats
- Rear seats
- Rear seat center tunnel
- Steering wheel rim
- Door panel armrests
- Center console lid
11-23-2020, 05:43 PM
#39
Burning Brakes
mine has a stick, in the face of progress however they made the logical decision to move it around the steering wheel and called it paddles.
shift into manual mode and I have all the control that you have with your, how did you call it, umm umm oh that’s right - stick
The only thing I don’t have to do is push in the clutch and rev match. Oh that’s right, silly me you don’t get to Rev match either any more. 😜
shift into manual mode and I have all the control that you have with your, how did you call it, umm umm oh that’s right - stick
The only thing I don’t have to do is push in the clutch and rev match. Oh that’s right, silly me you don’t get to Rev match either any more. 😜
11-23-2020, 05:55 PM
#40
i don’t have to convince myself. I drive stick well but I went PDK and have never looked back. I love the versatility my PDK offers and would never go back to stick for the driving I do.
Actually sometime I think it is the stick drivers on Rennlist who seem to think that all non stick drivers are having a subpar experience and some how their Porsche experience is the only true Porsche experience. We all love our cars for all our own reasons. I have a C2 in PDK. It is a drivers car and for me that’s all that matters.
Actually sometime I think it is the stick drivers on Rennlist who seem to think that all non stick drivers are having a subpar experience and some how their Porsche experience is the only true Porsche experience. We all love our cars for all our own reasons. I have a C2 in PDK. It is a drivers car and for me that’s all that matters.
11-23-2020, 05:56 PM
#41
Burning Brakes
Base standard interior has full 'embossed leather' (vinyl) front/rear seats and rear seat center tunnel...real leather in that interior is only on steering rim, door panel armrests and center console lid.
EDIT: UNLESS you get SS+ seats then you get full leather seats...standard with leather package gets you front, upper dash/door panels, steering rim, armrests, center lid...you really have to read all the info in the 'i' on configurator!
S standard interior is vinyl on front bolsters/headrests, rear seats and center tunnel...real leather on front seat centers, steering rim, door panel armrests and center console lid.
Both have the plastic dash and plastic upper sections of door/rear side panels.
Last edited by gohawks23; 11-23-2020 at 07:12 PM.
11-23-2020, 07:08 PM
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Nope, nice smooth dash top. But regardless, its all personal likes/opinion/whatever. I also happen to like white cars but that doesn't mean someone who wants yellow is wrong.
11-23-2020, 07:16 PM
#43
Wrong. 'Embossed leather' is a nice name for leatherette/vinyl/man made/etc.
Base standard interior has full 'embossed leather' (vinyl) front/rear seats and rear seat center tunnel...real leather in that interior is only on steering rim, door panel armrests and center console lid.
EDIT: UNLESS you get SS+ seats then you get full leather seats...standard with leather package gets you front, upper dash/door panels, steering rim, armrests, center lid...you really have read all the info in the 'i' on configurator!
S standard interior is vinyl on front bolsters/headrests, rear seats and center tunnel...real leather on front seat centers, steering rim, door panel armrests and center console lid.
Both have the plastic dash and plastic upper sections of door/rear side panels.
Base standard interior has full 'embossed leather' (vinyl) front/rear seats and rear seat center tunnel...real leather in that interior is only on steering rim, door panel armrests and center console lid.
EDIT: UNLESS you get SS+ seats then you get full leather seats...standard with leather package gets you front, upper dash/door panels, steering rim, armrests, center lid...you really have read all the info in the 'i' on configurator!
S standard interior is vinyl on front bolsters/headrests, rear seats and center tunnel...real leather on front seat centers, steering rim, door panel armrests and center console lid.
Both have the plastic dash and plastic upper sections of door/rear side panels.
C2:
In Embossed Leather:
- Front seats
- Rear seats
- Rear seat center tunnel
- Steering wheel rim
- Door panel armrests
- Center console lid
For the C2S
In Embossed Leather:
- Front seat side bolsters and headrests
- Rear seats
- Rear seat center tunnel
- Front seat centers
- Steering wheel rim
- Door panel armrests
- Center console lid
So I stand corrected but the only difference between the C2 and C2S is the leather seat centers in the C2S which are leatherette in the C2 but all other interior components are absolutely identical. If you get the SS+ in both then it is absolutely identical which makes sense as the SS+ are 800 in the base and 400 in the S as in the S the centers were already going to be leather.
11-24-2020, 09:39 PM
#44
Leather
PSE
!4/18
SPASM
The only thing I would have changed on the car I ordered in '19 was to get Club leather, they had a dark brown leather option that looked great. Got the 14 and PSE (PSE came with the Sport Package).
Didn't want the car lowered past the standard PASM so that's last.
PSE
!4/18
SPASM
The only thing I would have changed on the car I ordered in '19 was to get Club leather, they had a dark brown leather option that looked great. Got the 14 and PSE (PSE came with the Sport Package).
Didn't want the car lowered past the standard PASM so that's last.
11-29-2020, 07:51 AM
#45
SPASM is definitely a real benefit on canyon backroads. I’ve driven 992 with and without quite a bit now. SPASM is more settled and confidence building. I travel faster and at higher G with. SPASM in the 992 is also much more accommodating than SPASM in 991 - it’s entirely liveable with. Nothing to fear unless you have high driveway curbs.
I specified the club leather on my build. It’s very nice but a full leather black interior would be just as pleasing. That’s mostly because the club leather is pasted directly onto hard surfaces (unlike the Panamera) so you don’t get a particular sensation of soft semi-analine. It certainly does not touch my S-Class or Range Rover leathers, both of which feel as soft as chamois.
I also have the PSE but wish I did not. The four pipe sounds better/authentic (IMO) even with euro-petrol-particulate-filters.
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