markchristenson

https://carbuzz.com/news/watch-a-por...1-on-the-track

detansinn

Oh, Jeez, every GT4 owner is now going to cite this article at Cars & Coffee and of course, extend the smack talk to say that their car is as fast as a 918 or GT2R. LOL

PZeroes exist to keep the rims from getting scratched when the car leaves the factory. Cup 2s aren't a fair fight.

Drizz

I love the GT4 and seriously considered it over the 992 S, but ultimately wanted something a little bigger and more comfortable for the day to day. As the post above states, however, this certainly isn't a fair fight. Outside of the fact that we're looking at the most track-focused 718 there is compared to a run-of-the-mill 911, those Sport Cup 2 tires are probably worth 3-4 seconds on the track.

smiles11

What I find interesting, is the Nurburgring time between the C2S & GT4. Only 5 seconds difference. Anyone know what tires they were running on each?

ant922599

I saw this earlier and thought 'nope, ignore it and pretend it never happened'!

But I agree, the cup 2's have to be worth enough to make the difference. But when you think about it, every 992 track tested so far must have been only on Goodyears or PZeros - the car has posted some amazing times on other tracks, so the foundation is definitely there.

I really do like the GT4, but I'd be pretty self conscious driving it - I appreciate the ability but it really does shout about it.

russbert

"The Cayman GT4 crosses the line in 1.33.26 minutes, ...., manages to beat the 992 Carrera S' time of 1.33.62. We should mention that the 911 posted those times on Pirelli P Zero tires, while the Cayman got to run on Michelin Sport Cup 2s. It's clear that the 911 clan isn't as invincible as once thought." OK, that is ONE person's opinion, especially since the difference is so small. But to have some "fun" with that argument / article, I remembered watching YouTube's Pro Racer's Take on both the GT4 and the 992 S. BTW, they are BOTH great cars.

Same tire difference BTW (GT4 has Michelin Cup 2's and 992 S has PZero's).
992 VERSUS GT4
Flying Half Mile 165 MPH 157 MPH (said he perhaps could have a gotten a couple more)
0 - 60 Launch 3.1 secs 3.9 secs
1/4 Mile Time 11.13 @ 125 11.97 @ 120
Hot Lap Time 2.12.02 mins 2.13.12 mins

rk-d

I mean I owned a GT4 and it's a great car, but it's totally and completely different from a 911 in every possible way...it's not really comparable at all.

I very much prefer the 911 experience. It's the complete package.

ant922599

That's interesting to hear - and, perhaps somewhat weirdly, quite heartening for me! My 992 is my first 911 (second Porsche) so I dont have a lot of experience of P cars generally.

sechsgang

Great cars, different purpose, and if the 992 had the same tires it would have beaten the GT4 without a doubt in my mind. Granted LOVE the new GT4!

ipse dixit

Jesus.

We're talking about a difference of 0.36 seconds? Point three six seconds.

Not 3 seconds. Not 6 seconds. Not 36 seconds.

But point three six seconds.

For crissake. Get a grip.

Cheshi143

Were the times even run on the same day? The video does not include both cars.

Quick Google search shows 992 Carrera S lap was published January 3, 2020 and the GT4 published May 30, 2020.

venom51

In other words someone lifted off the brake a little sooner one lap.

dj997

eh, its cute..but its not a 911

ipse dixit

FIFY

aggie57

or it was a little warmer the day one car did its lap. So little in it.