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It was an executive order. In other words, in a couple of years when a new governor is elected there is a very good chance that the executive order re EV by 2035 gets modified, or simply revoked.
Move along, really nothing to see here.
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ipse dixit, refraining from politics in that state (smile). I wanted to keep the discussion more about our cars, RV of ICE pre 2035, and the next gen 911.
In this thread it was mentioned that Porsche (unsure of the exec) said that the 992.2 will not be a hybrid.
This will accelerate car companies thinking....ie; Scott Keogh said; “I think we’ve probably got [the ID 4] a few years sooner” because of Dieselgate.
Question to the group - What does a 992's engine, petrol, etc weigh and based on where batteries are going....when will that weight be equal.
How cool to think that the 911's weight distribution in the future might be adjustable or even customizable (sliding batteries front/back).
In this thread it was mentioned that Porsche (unsure of the exec) said that the 992.2 will not be a hybrid.
This will accelerate car companies thinking....ie; Scott Keogh said; “I think we’ve probably got [the ID 4] a few years sooner” because of Dieselgate.
Question to the group - What does a 992's engine, petrol, etc weigh and based on where batteries are going....when will that weight be equal.
How cool to think that the 911's weight distribution in the future might be adjustable or even customizable (sliding batteries front/back).
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I think it depends on where we live, what we do with our cars, and like you said, how long to keep the car.
My small town is just outside of Chicago, so theres a lot of 3-mile or less driving. Lots of stop and go (where electric car acceleration is FUN but not annoying to the community), electric cars make the most sense here, with pollution and wear and tear the highest on short drives. Illinois has 33% natural gas and 33% nuclear power at about a $0.14/kw rate, and our designer gas is about $3/gal.
My wife and I are tired of timing chain replacements, coolant and spark plug changes, all the usual German-car headaches with her Q5. Would love a Tesla Y instead.
Contrast this with My 996, however, which is an old car now, dare I saw vintage, but a blast to drive in the rural country roads, or mountain roads, even the highway. Long distance trips are often easier with gas cars.
I would have a hard time buying a non-electric new car today for a daily driver or a utility vehicle.
A good plan might be to buy a used 991 to hold for 5 years and then make a different decision around 2026, considering improvements in tech.
My small town is just outside of Chicago, so theres a lot of 3-mile or less driving. Lots of stop and go (where electric car acceleration is FUN but not annoying to the community), electric cars make the most sense here, with pollution and wear and tear the highest on short drives. Illinois has 33% natural gas and 33% nuclear power at about a $0.14/kw rate, and our designer gas is about $3/gal.
My wife and I are tired of timing chain replacements, coolant and spark plug changes, all the usual German-car headaches with her Q5. Would love a Tesla Y instead.
Contrast this with My 996, however, which is an old car now, dare I saw vintage, but a blast to drive in the rural country roads, or mountain roads, even the highway. Long distance trips are often easier with gas cars.
I would have a hard time buying a non-electric new car today for a daily driver or a utility vehicle.
A good plan might be to buy a used 991 to hold for 5 years and then make a different decision around 2026, considering improvements in tech.
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I'm guessing that the Tesla Battery is about double the weight of the 992's engine.
If they were equal weight (lets say in 2025) would that accelerate the direction of cars like the 911 to be electric?
If the motors specs were greater than the engine is it more than that (deceleration)?
Seems like an electric 911 could disperse the weight lower than today with a F/R weight ratio whatever they want.
If they were equal weight (lets say in 2025) would that accelerate the direction of cars like the 911 to be electric?
If the motors specs were greater than the engine is it more than that (deceleration)?
Seems like an electric 911 could disperse the weight lower than today with a F/R weight ratio whatever they want.
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The biggest problem with electric cars today is going to be for people living in dense urban areas who don't have access to private parking. all the apt buildings and all the duplex, triplex, town house owners or tenants that have to park in the street will not be able to recharge the car overnight easily.
It's all good for burb owners who have garages or private driveways, but it's going to take a very very very long time to take for dense urban areas.
It's all good for burb owners who have garages or private driveways, but it's going to take a very very very long time to take for dense urban areas.
Sometimes the sea change happens where people aren't looking. In the case of electric vehicles in urban environments with infrastructure challenges and limitations, owned electric isn't nearly as scalable as shared electric.
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The poster child for urban electrification isn't cars...it's scooters. I live smack in the middle of the city, and my office is about 1 km from my home. My parking is on level 4 of a high-rise, and it's .4 km from my parking space(s) to the street. In the time it takes to get down the elevator to get the 911, or gear up to take my motorcycle, or unlock a bicycle from the rack, I'm at work via scooter. Out the front door of my building at home there are 4-8 Lime scooters available every morning, and if the scooter I rode to work isn't on the street exactly where I left it at the end of the day, another 8 are within a minute's walk.
Sometimes the sea change happens where people aren't looking. In the case of electric vehicles in urban environments with infrastructure challenges and limitations, owned electric isn't nearly as scalable as shared electric.
Sometimes the sea change happens where people aren't looking. In the case of electric vehicles in urban environments with infrastructure challenges and limitations, owned electric isn't nearly as scalable as shared electric.
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Agreed, the revolution in personal transport at least in urban areas will be less about propulsion and more about ownership and access. Uber and scooters are just the tip of the iceberg, really if we boil it down so many people already lease or otherwise finance their cars it's not such a big leap. Once you get past that mental barrier than the whole concept of what the vehicle actually is becomes moot. We just want to get to where we need to go.