2021 Turbo S- 640 HP Just Wow!
02-11-2020, 10:36 AM
#46
Funny thing with all this weight talk - 911s have not been particularly light for some time now.
My 993 C4s weighs 3000lb, and that's with a meaningful effort to make it lighter.
The 964 C4 weighed ~3200 lb I believe.
I believe the 993 Turbo was about 3300 lb from the factory.
Dropping the weight of a modern 911 down to sub 3000lb would be tremendously difficult, particularly in Turbo guise. As others have mentioned - all the regulations for pedestrian safety and impact have made that much harder to do.
I think the big issue with modern 911s, if there is one, is physical size. The wheelbase of an air-cooled car is tiny and the car itself is hardly bigger than a Miata. It *feels* small, which is what's missing in modern cars.
My 993 C4s weighs 3000lb, and that's with a meaningful effort to make it lighter.
The 964 C4 weighed ~3200 lb I believe.
I believe the 993 Turbo was about 3300 lb from the factory.
Dropping the weight of a modern 911 down to sub 3000lb would be tremendously difficult, particularly in Turbo guise. As others have mentioned - all the regulations for pedestrian safety and impact have made that much harder to do.
I think the big issue with modern 911s, if there is one, is physical size. The wheelbase of an air-cooled car is tiny and the car itself is hardly bigger than a Miata. It *feels* small, which is what's missing in modern cars.
02-12-2020, 03:00 PM
#48
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High weight is fine if you're only interested in highway/autobahn performance. If you want a sports car (and intend to drive it like one), weight is extremely important.
My GT3 and 73 911 have power-to-weight ratios in the same ballpark, but the driving experience couldn't be more different.
My GT3 and 73 911 have power-to-weight ratios in the same ballpark, but the driving experience couldn't be more different.
02-12-2020, 04:34 PM
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02-12-2020, 10:57 PM
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The GT3 is faster, but I've run with the newest Cup2 and MaxxRace2 tires on it and the old design (but still being made) Toyo RA-1 on the 73. I love the RA-1 for its very friendly behavior at (and over) the limit and long life, but it's not nearly as sticky as the GT3's tires. Since 15" tires are cheap, I'll try some stickier rubber sometime on the 73 and see if I can challenge the GT3 on my technical local track. Maybe laptime won't quite get there, but I do enjoy driving it more.
