gcurnew

Nice engine in the GT350; too bad the best Ford can do is wrap a Mustang body around it. IMO the 911 has aged gracefully, and looks better with every iteration; the Mustang (like the Camaro) has always looked cheap-and-cheesy. The Shelby formula clearly works for a subset of the enthusiast population, but not my tribe, no matter what noises it makes or how close it can stick to the rump of a 992.

Penn4S

Hate to break the news to some of you but if you bought your 911 to be the fastest car in a straight line, or to run over every car under $100k, or to have every inside surface covered in mother of Pearl, you bought the wrong car.
I'm on my 13th. No illusions on what I was purchasing I wanted what the 911 offered and does best. These are 6 cylinder drivers cars, with one of the best dual clutch transmissions available at any price, that can be stacked up against muscle cars and exotics and hold their own.
These threads serve those that don't own or just like to bit$h best. No disrespect to the OP whose intentions I believe were different.

speedyj

price is always a stupid thing to compare.. there are so many things that go into the price... go sit in a 911 then go sit in a mustang. It’s obvious why there is a price difference...

1RedHead

You are missing the entire point. First to address your recommendation, I have been in a 992 as I actually own one. I have also owned a GT350 as part of the collection and spent time in it as well. This thread is not about how warm and fuzzy you feel by sitting in it to justify the price difference. This thread is about performance.

The price difference between the two is not about "nicer plastic", better leather or interior fit and finish. I pay the Porsche premium because of all the German engineering and technology that goes into it to make it one of the most sophisticated and best performing cars. This is what drives the price difference. If my 992 S which has twin turbos, two intercoolers placed strategically to maximize cooling, active air intakes on the front, active rear spoiler with air braking, a double transmission with 8 speeds which is probably the best and fastest in the industry, Porsche traction management, Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus, Porsche Active Suspension Management, Porsche Stability Management and other well engineered features can't out perform a slightly above average Ford Mustang that has none of this technology in it, then there is a problem. If I expected a poorly built Ford Mustang with very little technology to perform better, I would own one and be hanging out on the Ford forum talking about how not to crash when leaving a cars and coffee event.

Penn4S

You called out all of the right things that make a Porsche a better car overall but you are hung up on one thing. That your 400+ hp Porsche just edged out a 5.2 Liter V8 with 526 hp & 429 tq. Did you want the Porsche to better it by 5 seconds? Take a look at both cars in 5 years and tell me which one you want to drive. If its not the Porsche you bought the wrong car. Get a Hellcat.

rk-d

I think you are severely under-estimating the GT350. This isn't some BS Fox body Mustang. It's a pretty trick flat plane 526 HP V8 with Brembos, aero and magnetorheological dampers. It's a serious machine. Yeah, the fit and finish don't come close, but there is real engineering in that car and the engine is nothing to sneeze at -- 8250 RPM redline.

EDIT: Just read that you owned one. Interesting. First I've heard an owner call a GT350 just above average, but you're obviously qualified to have an opinion.

Alan Smithee

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1RedHead

Yeap, my neighbor purchased one right before he retired from a Ford dealership where he was the GM. He put it in his storage facility and never drove it. Got tired of it taking up space and made a deal to get it out. Had it for a few months and it was nothing special except for going about 60, downshifting into 3rd and nailing it. Hence I moved on as well. It's nothing special, a Cobra R, yes, a GT350 R, yes. To set the bar of a German engineered car with all the technology behind it beating a Mustang GT350 is low standards in my opinion. And BTW, I am one of those Porsche guys and Ferrari guys ( reference profile name) that can also buy and do what they want. Modern Ford Mustang is way down the list.

Yc911Kid

Beating a gt350 non R on a track isn't something to celebrate for, as someone said, should be a given. If it's that camaro zl1 le freak, then def worth a wow

Yc911Kid

And FYI that mustang cost almost same as a 1.2 gt3 in my home country, you guys are lucky!

Alan Smithee

Um, OK...

Ukkid74

How much more time would be removed to the 992 time if it had the sport cup 2 tires ?

Deepbluejh

Gotta agree that threads like this showcase the worst of Rennlist and Porsche fanboyism.

You know... its OK to admit that a different brand has a great car which is a great enthusiast value. That doesn't take anything away from your "Porsche cred" nor does it make your decision to buy a Porsche any less special.

Besides I really can't see many people cross shopping these two cars anyway. Two vastly different cars for two vastly different markets. Motortrend is looking for clicks and views, as usual. They'll get plenty from a video like this.

992Sam

that was the ENTIRE idea of this thread... to compare what I would consider a more basic 911 (vs the GT cars, and Turbo) to a flagship track car like the GT350. Not to hate on it... more a compliment as I set it as a benchmark.

992Sam

btw MT tested all of these cars, including their two "Front runners" the GT350 and Porsche 992... this is the original full video if anyone cares. Porsche took the title of best drivers car of 2019.