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12-15-2019, 04:23 PM
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It is possible if they don’t use heavier 8-spd PDK from 992 Carrera (either lighter 7spd PDK or lightened version of 8spd. Manual should continue with same 6spd box). But weight loss tends to be expensive, so just because it’s possible doesn’t mean it will happen...
12-15-2019, 04:33 PM
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That would be crazy if it would rev to 10K. I suspect they have tested and the current 4.0 potentially could. But would vastly decrease the life and is not designed for it. I've heard that manufacturers have a built in 10-15% rpm cushion from the max and drop it down as to keep the engine from expiring prematurely. How true that is can be anyone's guess. I heard that from my cleaning lady PbPedis.
12-15-2019, 04:36 PM
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Doesn't sound like a full bump to 4.2 is in the cards but it would be nice.
https://www.motor1.com/news/302249/p...t3-rs-details/
https://www.motor1.com/news/302249/p...t3-rs-details/
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12-15-2019, 04:40 PM
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I didn't mean to imply anything that extreme. They only need to add 20hp to get to 540 (less than 4% bump) - so adding only 350rpm to peak power (to 8,750 rpm) should be plenty. Whether they want to and can raise redline by similar amount is unknown.
With the E46 M3, BMW made peak power at 7,900 rpm, while redline was only 8,000. This is not the best way to go (you fall too far below peak power on an upshift), but does allow you to make power without grenading the motor (or so went the theory)...
With the E46 M3, BMW made peak power at 7,900 rpm, while redline was only 8,000. This is not the best way to go (you fall too far below peak power on an upshift), but does allow you to make power without grenading the motor (or so went the theory)...
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12-15-2019, 05:39 PM
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I didn't mean to imply anything that extreme. They only need to add 20hp to get to 540 (less than 4% bump) - so adding only 350rpm to peak power (to 8,750 rpm) should be plenty. Whether they want to and can raise redline by similar amount is unknown.
With the E46 M3, BMW made peak power at 7,900 rpm, while redline was only 8,000. This is not the best way to go (you fall too far below peak power on an upshift), but does allow you to make power without grenading the motor (or so went the theory)...
With the E46 M3, BMW made peak power at 7,900 rpm, while redline was only 8,000. This is not the best way to go (you fall too far below peak power on an upshift), but does allow you to make power without grenading the motor (or so went the theory)...
It didn’t grenade the motor. It was simply an oiling issue caused primarily by user error - i.e., driving the car.
12-15-2019, 05:45 PM
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That would be crazy if it would rev to 10K. I suspect they have tested and the current 4.0 potentially could. But would vastly decrease the life and is not designed for it. I've heard that manufacturers have a built in 10-15% rpm cushion from the max and drop it down as to keep the engine from expiring prematurely. How true that is can be anyone's guess. I heard that from my cleaning lady PbPedis.
Conspiracy theories make for fun reading although need to be taken with a very large pinch os salt.!
12-15-2019, 05:58 PM
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Hard work keeping up, and law of diminishing returns and bank balance.
12-15-2019, 06:07 PM
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12-15-2019, 11:44 PM
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Dedicating more front trunk to aero makes sense. Manthey more than doubled rear downforce with their mods while front downforce is only up only a little over 50% (see 11:15 in video). Surprised we haven't seen spy shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhyoMsCK8co
Unlikely to see engine relocation - too costly for production.
Doesn't sound like a full bump to 4.2 is in the cards but it would be nice.
https://www.motor1.com/news/302249/p...t3-rs-details/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhyoMsCK8co
Unlikely to see engine relocation - too costly for production.
Doesn't sound like a full bump to 4.2 is in the cards but it would be nice.
https://www.motor1.com/news/302249/p...t3-rs-details/
That would be crazy if it would rev to 10K. I suspect they have tested and the current 4.0 potentially could. But would vastly decrease the life and is not designed for it. I've heard that manufacturers have a built in 10-15% rpm cushion from the max and drop it down as to keep the engine from expiring prematurely. How true that is can be anyone's guess. I heard that from my cleaning lady PbPedis.
12-16-2019, 12:23 AM
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(Neither of those things is necessary in a 992 GT3 car, so other than a slight wider track that will add a few pounds, hopefully the 992 GT3 won’t be that much heavier than the 991.2 GT3.
12-16-2019, 12:31 AM
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But...it would make sense to go to 4.2 since the new RSR is 4.2 and for Motorsport consistency and enthusiasm
I’m not sure where they lose 100 lbs though.
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12-16-2019, 01:33 AM
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12-16-2019, 01:35 AM
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Are you pretty confident in that? That is very late for GT3. Historically, the new GT3 comes in the 3rd model year of new generation and .2 comes in 6th model year of the 7-year generational cycle (each with 2-year production minimum)... Intro some time in first half of 2020 makes more sense (with late 2020 deliveries as 2021 model year in US).
12-16-2019, 01:36 AM
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