WCE

Spec'ing a lightly equipped Carrera as close to $100k as possible but I do want to get the 20/21" wheels. I know the brakes will look puny in those wheels which will definitely bug me. To make matters worse, the car will spend most of its life on a lift that I'll be walking by daily and looking into those gorgeous wheels and seeing the smallish and soon to be corroding steel brakes.
Upgrading to PCCB is about $9k which would seem to make no sense at all in view of my spec and price goals, but I do appreciate their benefits and like their looks and the yellow calipers. On the other hand, upgrading to the S is "only" about another $5k more, and I get to enjoy the extra 65hp plus the slightly larger though still steel red brakes, but now I've really blown out my budget. I also imagine that when I eventually sell it, I'll more than make up the extra $5k on the S over an odd ball PCCB base car.
Probably the best solution is to stick with the standard 19/20" wheels which seem to be designed to make the standard brakes fill the wheel better - but I really think the larger wheels are part of the 992's new "look".
What would you do in my position?

jkautz

This thread is Taylormade for me lol I have a heavily spec’d base 911. I am adding PCCB’s to my build, be it a late addition. They’re a must have after considering the longer life and performance of them.

You’ll soon come to find the 64HP for $15k is not worth it. Unless you really want other options like PDCC, SPASM, or RAS that the S opens up.. but that will be another $7-$8k for all of those options. Now you’re up towards $23k for 64HP and 3 unnecessary options. No offense towards those who have opted to get them.. more power to you.

If you get an S, you might as well get PCCBs on that one as well. So at that point, you just paid $15k to have an S on your door sill. At which point you might as well get a GTS lol

If you don’t need those options which I found are not needed for a 911 when making my decision, then the base is the best choice.

If you want 200k miles of life out of your brakes, the PCCB’s will pay for themselves over time.

If you want another 64HP, you can just add a stage 1 tune with no mods and boost your HP by 90+. You’d be running a PCCB 911 with 470HP+!!

Don’t make the mistake I did by waiting so long to add PCCBs and get them now.

leaf345

I’d only get the PCCB if you plan on keeping the car forever.

stout

Skipped PCCB on my GT4 and regretted it. It was my one regret with that car's spec.

Ordered PCCB on two successive base 991.2 Carreras, and it might have been my favorite option on both cars. No dust, feel the immediacy every time you apply the brakes (which is a lot on the street), and visual art far more interesting to me than wings and things because brakes are one of the few mechanical aspects still visible on modern sports cars. YMMV, as will others', but I've never—not once—regretted getting PCCB on a base Carrera. It's contrarian, but that only makes it more fun in my view. As my late sales advisor, who was a real enthusiast, put it: "PCCB on a base Carrera is kinda…kinky."

Bobby 911

well said...and this pete stout fellow knows!

njcycleguy

PCCBs are a waste of money. They look cool but the price doesn't equal the improvement in looks. And FYI - no one will care about them when you trade / sell it - more so on a base 911. Had them on my 997 GT3, no one cared. Didn't have them on my 991 GT3. No one cared. But buy what you want. Only you can decide if something is worth it. And soon to be corroding brakes? You have a car that's going to sit on a lift, what corrosion are you talking about? FYI on my 997 they squeaked badly.

jkautz

If you take PCCB. Compare it to PDCC, RAS, & SPASM. And you decided to pick which to get. PCCBs are at the front. The other three are the true “waste of money” options if we will be using that term loosely.

Bob Z.

Waste of money? Whose money?! I did not waste a penny of MY money on MY car and the OP should feel the same. In regards to the PCCBs, no brake dust is worth the cost and why I got them after I ordered the car - SA talked me out of them. Besides, Yellow looks better to me than Red. And I also have RAS and love it - no waste of MY money there either.

njcycleguy

It would be a waste of MY money, which is MY opinion, which is what the OP essentially asked for.

As I said, buy what YOU want.

I do agree the yellow calipers look much better than red but again not for $8k.

Bob Z.

Maybe not for YOUR $8k, but it was for MINE, and it sounds like it might be for the OP as well hence the question.

jkautz

Didn’t mean to throw shade on RAS. Just putting a perspective on where PCCB ranks after doing many many hours of research and comparing them between drives ive done.

Bob Z.

I understood what you meant, no worries. I could have spec'd my car with every option available, but I didn't since some of them did not seem useful or likable to me, so I can understand different points of view; however, I do not believe any option is a waste of money for someone that is willing to pay for it.

jkautz

100%

Underblu

I've been going back and forth myself on an order on I placed with regard to PCCBs. As superficial as this sounds, I would have spec'd them if I was going with a color combo other than silver and red. And paying an extra G for glossy black is something I won't do.

The benefits I see are as follows
No brake dust
Lifetime service life (for street use)
More fade resistance

The drawbacks are
Susceptible to chipping.
Some apparentlysqueak.
Track use can seriously shorten their service life.
Very expensive $25k to replace all 4.

Questions I still have,
They do reduce unsprung rotor weight by half, however, is there any noticeable performance benefit to this.
Breaking distance, is it significantly better.
How about breaking feel for everyday street use.

Unfortunately, I never really paid close attention to the breaks in cars I've driven with PCCBs so maybe an enthusiastic test drive focused on such would help.

jkautz

This thread helped me with my decision to get PCCB’s. I looked mostly towards the most recent posts and sited sources.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...91-gt3-18.html