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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 10:21 PM
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I ordered a 992 C2S specifically without SPASM due to the appalling roads in this part of PA next to the Delaware River (massive potholes, badly surfaced minor roads, tree branches and debris everywhere after storms etc). Also my driveway is difficult and the entrance into my garage has a large lip that caused our old Tesla to bottom out regularly when reversing out (this last item is being addressed with a new driveway in a few months time).

Having now driven my 992 for 300 miles I have come to the conclusion that my fears were unfounded and I should have got SPASM. The PASM has easily coped with everything I have challenged it with including recently dug up roads with awful ridges on entry/exit. It seems the 1600lb heavier and vastly more softly sprung Tesla was a bad comparison re suspension and ground clearance. SPASM - even whilst making the car 0.4" or 10mm lower - would have managed the same without need for Front Axle Lift. I love the connectedness and feel and lack of roll due to PASM and would be happy with more of this via SPASM... I will keep this in mind for my next 911.
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 10:54 PM
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Good info on SPASM. I'm still worried about not opting for the front axle lift... most of our roads in DFW are very good, but there are lots of older parking lots/etc with steep angles.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pelucidor
I ordered a 992 C2S specifically without SPASM due to the appalling roads in this part of PA next to the Delaware River (massive potholes, badly surfaced minor roads, tree branches and debris everywhere after storms etc). Also my driveway is difficult and the entrance into my garage has a large lip that caused our old Tesla to bottom out regularly when reversing out (this last item is being addressed with a new driveway in a few months time).

Having now driven my 992 for 300 miles I have come to the conclusion that my fears were unfounded and I should have got SPASM. The PASM has easily coped with everything I have challenged it with including recently dug up roads with awful ridges on entry/exit. It seems the 1600lb heavier and vastly more softly sprung Tesla was a bad comparison re suspension and ground clearance. SPASM - even whilst making the car 0.4" or 10mm lower - would have managed the same without need for Front Axle Lift. I love the connectedness and feel and lack of roll due to PASM and would be happy with more of this via SPASM... I will keep this in mind for my next 911.
I live in Bucks County and River Road is especially garbage between Dilly's and Tinicum. I just take Dark Hollow Rd and join up with the river further north.
Unless you've got a particularly steep driveway entry, the 911 doesn't need a front-end lift. Even when things are steep, just approach it from an angle and you'll be fine.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by carson2
Good info on SPASM. I'm still worried about not opting for the front axle lift... most of our roads in DFW are very good, but there are lots of older parking lots/etc with steep angles.
Approach them from an angle and you'll be fine. The angled design of the standard front bumper/splitter gives you a lot of room to work with -- it's possible that the Design piece may scrape with its different shape. Having driven very low cars in the past, the 911 is a breath of fresh air.
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 01:00 AM
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I live in Bucks County and River Road is especially garbage between Dilly's and Tinicum. I just take Dark Hollow Rd and join up with the river further north.
Unless you've got a particularly steep driveway entry, the 911 doesn't need a front-end lift. Even when things are steep, just approach it from an angle and you'll be fine.
They are finally resurfacing this section of road (at a glacial pace) and one day it might look less like the surface of the moon.
And yes it seems I should have got SPASM and wouldn't need FAL - the car is pretty comfortable and copes with things better than I expected. I will do this for my next 911 (will add RAS too for good measure).
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 02:55 AM
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I have a 991.2 GTS with SPASM and my business partner has a 991.2 Targa without. We park next to each other everyday and you really can't notice the height difference unless you kneel down to be horizontal and really focus on the top of the guard and wheel.

From every other angle they appear to be the same height.
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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Saw and drove a 992S yesterday. The dealer had a coupe with SPASM and a cab without. The difference in how the tire filled wheel well was obvious to me.

The coupe I drove had SPASM. It was more supple and seems to corner with less lean in Sport mode than my 991.1 with SPASM (which feels "stiffer/sportier" but still quite acceptble).
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Old Jul 24, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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I still can't figure out the difference between PASM and SPASM on a 992?
It doesn't show up on the configurator - is there really a difference?

My car has sport package (sports chrono, sport exhaust and pasm) - does that have SPASM?
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Old Jul 24, 2020 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozy190
I still can't figure out the difference between PASM and SPASM on a 992?
It doesn't show up on the configurator - is there really a difference?

My car has sport package (sports chrono, sport exhaust and pasm) - does that have SPASM?
If has the sports pack then yes, your car should have PASM Sport Suspension, a.k.a. SPASM. Just stiffer springs and bars, and a 10mm lower ride height.

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Old Jul 24, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozy190
I still can't figure out the difference between PASM and SPASM on a 992?
It doesn't show up on the configurator - is there really a difference?

My car has sport package (sports chrono, sport exhaust and pasm) - does that have SPASM?
Yep, lots of tiny differences. If you have the sport package you have SPASM, lower ride hight, tighter springs, roll bars, engine mounts etc. As long as you don't have PSP the car will 'feel' better to steer too. It's worth having for the engine mounts alone, but the nice perk is that it also looks better. I can tell a non-SPASM a mile away as it looks like an SUV 911. That 1cm extra hight doesn't suit the 911 at all, (I my eyes).

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Old Jul 24, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SDK Autos
I have a 991.2 GTS with SPASM and my business partner has a 991.2 Targa without. We park next to each other everyday and you really can't notice the height difference unless you kneel down to be horizontal and really focus on the top of the guard and wheel.

From every other angle they appear to be the same height.
Interesting, the one reason I won't buy a Targa is that it looks too high. You can't buy SPASM on a Targa. Anyone know why?
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Old Jul 24, 2020 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozy190
I still can't figure out the difference between PASM and SPASM on a 992?
It doesn't show up on the configurator - is there really a difference?

My car has sport package (sports chrono, sport exhaust and pasm) - does that have SPASM?
It used to in the 3D view -- as it loaded (and presumably as you check or uncheck the option, although I never specifically tested that) it would visibly drop down to SPASM height, if you had SPASM checked, as the car initially rendered, right after it applied the exterior color -- but apparently they've changed that behavior and it no longer does so. (And it also now renders with the exterior color already applied, rather than applying it after the car appears.)
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Old Jul 24, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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I have had SPASM on a 2013 C2S and the still "harder" GT suspension on my former 2019 GT3 Touring. I did not like SPASM at all and loved the Touring suspension. Go figure. On my 992 I passed on SPASM as this will be a DD for me; so, I prefer a little extra comfort over a 1 cm drop. My advice, if possible in this current world, drive both around town before you decide.
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by findtom
Interesting, the one reason I won't buy a Targa is that it looks too high. You can't buy SPASM on a Targa. Anyone know why?
Targa too heavy, especially with higher COG.
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Targa too heavy, especially with higher COG.
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