EVO's 992 Assessment
08-15-2019, 09:20 AM
#2
They basically said it's expensive, taken a step back on the track, not all that fast, a decent street car, and suggested to wait for the GT3 variant. They didn't mention the interior quality but they didn't have to - just look how hideous the interior looks in this video.. That about exactly summed up my thoughts / experience after driving it as well.
Probably going to be a really great value for the second owners in a couple years after the prices drop.
Probably going to be a really great value for the second owners in a couple years after the prices drop.
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08-15-2019, 10:33 AM
#3
The only thing that will slow the 992's downward spiral at this point is the fact that it circles the toilet along with the rest of it's luxury grand touring competition on that lap time board. 
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08-15-2019, 10:51 AM
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08-15-2019, 10:51 AM
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Three Wheelin'
Faster than 991 S powerkit and 8/10 slower than 991.1 turbo. That video was all about tracking.
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08-15-2019, 11:32 AM
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So, 1:16 , Faster than a AMG GT S.
1.6 seconds faster than previous gen 991S with power kit, (That’s basically a GTS), which would cost pretty much the same, seems like a pretty good value to me. ��*♂️
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08-15-2019, 11:34 AM
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Burning Brakes
While these reviews are very interesting to watch they mainly focus on one thing: track. And this is not the track version of the 992, it's the road car. So In my case this is not very relevant as I don't really track my cars and if I did I'd prob set myself up a dedicated track car (as a e36 M3 which is still in my plans) and not risk my brand new 200k toy. Therefore I don't understand all the negativity for the 992, it's a road car and it will be better at being a road car than its predecessors. If you want a track car wait for a an RS or a GT to come out I'm sure it will be brilliant on the track, however you know what it will suck at? driving on the roads ;-)
PS: just being the devil's advocate here... the 992 hasn't grown on me yet, but I'm pretty sure it will be amazing for everyday driving.
PS: just being the devil's advocate here... the 992 hasn't grown on me yet, but I'm pretty sure it will be amazing for everyday driving.
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08-15-2019, 11:35 AM
#9
...and I wonder how much of the improvement is solely due to tire improvements over the last 8 years.
The tone of the review says it all.
08-15-2019, 11:38 AM
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Three Wheelin'
100% about track.
08-15-2019, 11:39 AM
#12
Exactly! Besides the arguments of diminishing returns regarding performance figures of modern cars should be a distant 2nd place to the ownership / driving experience which is clearly diminishing...
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08-15-2019, 11:42 AM
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Three Wheelin'
Ownership/driving experience is diminishing? You really don't like your 992?
08-15-2019, 11:45 AM
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Three Wheelin'
The 992 is either your idea of what a 911 should be or it isn't. There appears to be very little, if any, middle ground. One thing is clear and that is Porsche management believes that there must be continuity of design across the model range, hence the design elements of the 992 that tie it strongly to the SUV/sedan series. In my opinion the 911 has been drifting away from its original concept since the 996. This was inevitable and at some stage of metamorphosis (Porsche calls it evolution) the end results bears so little in common with its forebears it becomes something else altogether. I suspect the older you are the more likely the 992 is a (big) step too far in the wrong direction.
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08-15-2019, 11:47 AM
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If you care to watch that video while applying more than the critical thinking skills of a robot you might also see that EVO is more or less saying the same...
I agree with you but what you might find odd coming from someone in their mid 30's is that while I obviously dislike the 992 and what it represents for the brand ( and car industry as a whole) I still maintain that the 996,997 gen cars still strongly represented the 911 concept and were worthy a evolution that still held rather tightly to the core principals of Ferry and Butzi and what a sports car meant to Porsche.
The 992 is a mishmash of too many things for too many people which completely compromises the 911's position with trendy style , needless tech overload and change for the mere sake of change.
This doesn't seem to bother those newer to the brand for obvious reasons and I suppose we can't or shouldn't change their minds but what I find curious is why they are so willing to defend the 992 when thier experience with the brand has been limited in many cases to only the last generation.
The 992 is either your idea of what a 911 should be or it isn't. There appears to be very little, if any, middle ground. One thing is clear and that is Porsche management believes that there must be continuity of design across the model range, hence the design elements of the 992 that tie it strongly to the SUV/sedan series. In my opinion the 911 has been drifting away from its original concept since the 996. This was inevitable and at some stage of metamorphesis (Porsche calls it evolution) the end results bears so little in common with its forebears it becomes something else altogether. I suspect the older you are the more likely the 992 is a (big) step too far in the wrong direction.
The 992 is a mishmash of too many things for too many people which completely compromises the 911's position with trendy style , needless tech overload and change for the mere sake of change.
This doesn't seem to bother those newer to the brand for obvious reasons and I suppose we can't or shouldn't change their minds but what I find curious is why they are so willing to defend the 992 when thier experience with the brand has been limited in many cases to only the last generation.