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This just reminds me of the Apple dongle situation. Steve Jobs, Mr. Minimalist and "it just works" probably turned in his grave when Apple made the decision to make people use dongles to connect devices to the new computers. Now, you need a removable cup holder to safely stabilize your drink while in transit in your 911.
I bought a car with a cup holder but now I have a car without. Yes, the passenger one is of course still there but mine is gone. They claim they had to remove it for saftey reasons because it could jam the parking brake. On all 992s.
I need a cup holder!
When interior spy photos of the 992 were first shown, this issue was raised numerous times on this forum. It is difficult to imagine such an oversight. I hope Porsche is not moving more now to form over function.
If true, that really is a huge snafu on the part of Porsche's R and D. I mean, how could that have been overlooked during years of development? Is this really true? Has this been documented anywhere or is this just what someone at the dealership "heard?" Looking on the bright side, if it is true, I am sure that someone will swoop in and design a cup holder that will fit in that huge cubby hole. Perhaps it will not be "legal" but I doubt you will get a ticket - okay, maybe in West Hollywood, you would get a ticket - but I digress...unlikely you would receive a citation for "illegal use of cupholder." This is really laughable, if true. Thank goodness for my over-engineered 991 cup holders, the left one which routinely spills liquid on my passenger side seat warmer and seat cooler buttons...
If true, that really is a huge snafu on the part of Porsche's R and D. I mean, how could that have been overlooked during years of development? Is this really true? Has this been documented anywhere or is this just what someone at the dealership "heard?" Looking on the bright side, if it is true, I am sure that someone will swoop in and design a cup holder that will fit in that huge cubby hole. Perhaps it will not be "legal" but I doubt you will get a ticket - okay, maybe in West Hollywood, you would get a ticket - but I digress...unlikely you would receive a citation for "illegal use of cupholder." This is really laughable, if true. Thank goodness for my over-engineered 991 cup holders, the left one which routinely spills liquid on my passenger side seat warmer and seat cooler buttons...
He didn't say anything about legality. He said the cupholder could interfere with the parking brake actuator. That's more of a safety issue than anything else.
Putting aside legality, it is mind-boggling to think that Porsche dropped the ball on the cup holder like that.
I imagine that the safety concern stems from the possibility of liquid sloshing out of the cup and bridging the contacts on the parking brake button. At speed, this would initiate an emergency braking event capable of about 0.8G, at least on the 9x1 cars.
Every single person who worked on that console, including the managers who supervised them and the HR reps who interviewed them, needs to be fired. No other way to spin the situation. This is not what Porsche customers are told to expect, and it's not what they (we) expect to pay for.
Does Porsche have the guts to admit its silly error? And the wherewithal to make a pre, pre, pre mid-cycle modification to the car? As in, a recall for all the cars already made and to modify the current interior to address this cup holder snafu?
I liked this throwback advertisement for Porsche so much that I bought it and it’s hanging in my house. It might need an asterisk: *Does not apply to the cup holder division.
The parking brake can't even be activated while driving anyway. What's the issue here?
According to the 'AfterSales Training - Servicing & General Repair (Sports Cars)' document, using the parking brake while driving will result in an abrupt emergency braking maneuver. Maybe they changed it for the 992, but I haven't heard anything along those lines.
Have you tried it personally? Has anyone else? I'll admit I'm curious to see if it actually does anything, but I haven't had the ***** to try it myself.
04-25-2019, 07:58 PM
