PDCC on 992
03-11-2019, 02:54 PM
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People who have it, love it. But, bottom line, these cars handle great regardless.
03-11-2019, 07:11 PM
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No PDCC=less maintenance. 
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03-12-2019, 06:47 PM
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+1 - the PDCC makes a huge difference, even when not on the track. The car corners incredibly flat at high speeds. My C2 cab did not have it. My C2 GTS cab does. One of many major differences between the two cars.
03-13-2019, 07:41 AM
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I've had cars with PDCC and without. As others have said, the difference is negligible at best for real world driving. Some have even said it makes the car feel more disconnected and unreal. I think most if not all of the people who champion it have gotten sucked into the marketing and it's mostly a psychological effect. I would skip it.
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03-13-2019, 09:43 AM
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I've had cars with PDCC and without. As others have said, the difference is negligible at best for real world driving. Some have even said it makes the car feel more disconnected and unreal. I think most if not all of the people who champion it have gotten sucked into the marketing and it's mostly a psychological effect. I would skip it.
03-13-2019, 12:14 PM
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In theory, most of this tech makes perfect sense but in reality it produces more expensive, complex systems that produce very little return outside of instrumented driving tests. As someone who has driven many BMW's with active roll bars and Porsche's with PDCC I can say that this one is firmly on the marketing side more than in reality. I've also witnessed first hand the placebo effect of it as well.
It's also very wrong to assume that having no body roll in corners translates to better handling / road holding, in the race car world having a car that does not transfer weight actually makes the car more difficult to control and bring up to the limit and ultimately increases lap times and remember that's with conventional anti roll bars, adding in an artificial element to it just makes it worse...
03-13-2019, 12:46 PM
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I agree and like most of the tech that exists in the automotive industry today, how much of it is a theory based marketing ploy vs actual real world benefits to the end user?
In theory, most of this tech makes perfect sense but in reality it produces more expensive, complex systems that produce very little return outside of instrumented driving tests. As someone who has driven many BMW's with active roll bars and Porsche's with PDCC I can say that this one is firmly on the marketing side more than in reality. I've also witnessed first hand the placebo effect of it as well.
It's also very wrong to assume that having no body roll in corners translates to better handling / road holding, in the race car world having a car that does not transfer weight actually makes the car more difficult to control and bring up to the limit and ultimately increases lap times and remember that's with conventional anti roll bars, adding in an artificial element to it just makes it worse...
In theory, most of this tech makes perfect sense but in reality it produces more expensive, complex systems that produce very little return outside of instrumented driving tests. As someone who has driven many BMW's with active roll bars and Porsche's with PDCC I can say that this one is firmly on the marketing side more than in reality. I've also witnessed first hand the placebo effect of it as well.
It's also very wrong to assume that having no body roll in corners translates to better handling / road holding, in the race car world having a car that does not transfer weight actually makes the car more difficult to control and bring up to the limit and ultimately increases lap times and remember that's with conventional anti roll bars, adding in an artificial element to it just makes it worse...
Thanks to all people participating in this tread it is very helpful. So, please, continue.
Just a note to limegreen regarding the lap times with PDCC:
If I understand correctly, Porsche used a 992 CS2 with RWS, PCCB and PDCC to do the "5 seconds faster than 991.2 Nürburgring lap time".
Correct?
( A lot of marketing in it , for sure , but ... )
03-13-2019, 03:33 PM
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Thanks to all people participating in this tread it is very helpful. So, please, continue.
Just a note to limegreen regarding the lap times with PDCC:
If I understand correctly, Porsche used a 992 CS2 with RWS, PCCB and PDCC to do the "5 seconds faster than 991.2 Nürburgring lap time".
Correct?
( A lot of marketing in it , for sure , but ... )
Just a note to limegreen regarding the lap times with PDCC:
If I understand correctly, Porsche used a 992 CS2 with RWS, PCCB and PDCC to do the "5 seconds faster than 991.2 Nürburgring lap time".
Correct?
( A lot of marketing in it , for sure , but ... )
Plus, you have to keep in mind that Porsche wants to sell as many of these extremely profitable options as they can which translates to them demonstrating and possibly exaggerating the benefits in order to motivate the "upgrade".
Last edited by limegreen; 03-13-2019 at 06:12 PM.