Longevity of automatic door handles in the 992
02-17-2019 | 11:33 AM
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I know Porsche tests their cars in the frigid winters, I hoping for the best here for these 992 door handles.
What is funny for years (since I was a kid), I never worried about door handles, it just worked in every car. Now all of a sudden, I have to talk and wonder about door handles.
I guess it is hard to be simple these days.
Simplicity is always the best design
02-17-2019 | 11:38 AM
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Just googled Tesla door in winter - wow so many hits about doors being frozen during the crazy polar vortex.
I know Porsche tests their cars in the frigid winters, I hoping for the best here for these 992 door handles.
What is funny for years (since I was a kid), I never worried about door handles, it just worked in every car. Now all of a sudden, I have to talk and wonder about door handles.
I guess it is hard to be simple these days.
Simplicity is always the best design
I know Porsche tests their cars in the frigid winters, I hoping for the best here for these 992 door handles.
What is funny for years (since I was a kid), I never worried about door handles, it just worked in every car. Now all of a sudden, I have to talk and wonder about door handles.
I guess it is hard to be simple these days.
Simplicity is always the best design
02-17-2019 | 11:50 AM
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You mean the ones that freeze in the cold spectacularly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqD8CqAdyo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqD8CqAdyo0
02-17-2019 | 11:54 AM
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...like I said, why on earth would Porsche want to associate it's flagship vehicle in any way with Tesla? I'm not saying Porsche copied Tesla's design but just the fact that they look similar is enough for people to associate one with the other.
02-17-2019 | 12:18 PM
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You mean the ones that freeze in the cold spectacularly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqD8CqAdyo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqD8CqAdyo0
02-17-2019 | 12:20 PM
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We only have 27 Post discussing the Door Handles. There must be another 50 people who want to comment on the handles who have never either seen the door handles or tried them. After reading about all the door issues I am thinking about canceling my 992 order and buying a Ford. They apparently have good door handles.
02-17-2019 | 06:09 PM
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After getting some extensive hands on time with a pre production 992 I can say that the handles are quite complex and that they release both electrically AND mechanically, here’s what I observed :
The exterior handles fold out when first unlocked and remain extended until all the doors, hood and engine lid are closed.
The exterior and interior door handles have two stages.
The first stage from either handle actuates an electric latch that releases and pops the door open exactly the same as C6+ gen corvette.
If either handle is pulled further past that first stage it releases the door latch mechanically in the conventional manner. This means that if the battery is dead or if there was a malfunction with the electic latch the door can still be opened conventionally.
The exterior handle can be opened in either the retracted or extended position though more difficult in the retracted position of course.
After learning that they are electrically released I wonder why they didn’t just opt for an exterior electric switch in a very small cutout of the door to achieve the cleaner look they desired without the added complexity of the pop out handle.
02-17-2019 | 06:36 PM
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After getting some extensive hands on time with a pre production 992 I can say that the handles are quite complex and that they release both electrically AND mechanically, here’s what I observed :
The exterior handles fold out when first unlocked and remain extended until all the doors, hood and engine lid are closed.
The exterior and interior door handles have two stages.
The first stage from either handle actuates an electric latch that releases and pops the door open exactly the same as C6+ gen corvette.
If either handle is pulled further past that first stage it releases the door latch mechanically in the conventional manner. This means that if the battery is dead or if there was a malfunction with the electic latch the door can still be opened conventionally.
The exterior handle can be opened in either the retracted or extended position though more difficult in the retracted position of course.
After learning that they are electrically released I wonder why they didn’t just opt for an exterior electric switch in a very small cutout of the door to achieve the cleaner look they desired without the added complexity of the pop out handle.
This is just asking for unnecessary headaches and time waste to get door fixed that much
. Holy crap. There is no excuse for this. Definitely gonna wait for 2021 992 models and see what the reports come out for 992 2020 owners.My time is way more valuable than to beta test doors.
02-17-2019 | 09:45 PM
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After getting some extensive hands on time with a pre production 992 I can say that the handles are quite complex and that they release both electrically AND mechanically, here’s what I observed :
The exterior handles fold out when first unlocked and remain extended until all the doors, hood and engine lid are closed.
The exterior and interior door handles have two stages.
The first stage from either handle actuates an electric latch that releases and pops the door open exactly the same as C6+ gen corvette.
If either handle is pulled further past that first stage it releases the door latch mechanically in the conventional manner. This means that if the battery is dead or if there was a malfunction with the electic latch the door can still be opened conventionally.
The exterior handle can be opened in either the retracted or extended position though more difficult in the retracted position of course
The exterior handles fold out when first unlocked and remain extended until all the doors, hood and engine lid are closed.
The exterior and interior door handles have two stages.
The first stage from either handle actuates an electric latch that releases and pops the door open exactly the same as C6+ gen corvette.
If either handle is pulled further past that first stage it releases the door latch mechanically in the conventional manner. This means that if the battery is dead or if there was a malfunction with the electic latch the door can still be opened conventionally.
The exterior handle can be opened in either the retracted or extended position though more difficult in the retracted position of course
Also, do you have to pull the bumper to do an oil change?
02-17-2019 | 10:14 PM
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Most of you guys must be a lot younger than I am if you have no recollection of door handles that easily fail. My first car was a '59 Austin-Healey 100/6. The door handles were made of white metal. They were only attached at the rear, so you had to pull the little "wand-like" handle straight out, then back 90 degrees toward the rear of the car. If the mechanism became stiff for any reason the handle would simply break off in your hand. After replacing a few of these I threw the last one as far as I could, slid the plexiglass side curtain forward, then reached inside the door cavity and pulled down the wire which was the inside door release. At least it made the car that little bit harder to steal.
02-18-2019 | 12:39 AM
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Most of you guys must be a lot younger than I am if you have no recollection of door handles that easily fail. My first car was a '59 Austin-Healey 100/6. The door handles were made of white metal. They were only attached at the rear, so you had to pull the little "wand-like" handle straight out, then back 90 degrees toward the rear of the car. If the mechanism became stiff for any reason the handle would simply break off in your hand. After replacing a few of these I threw the last one as far as I could, slid the plexiglass side curtain forward, then reached inside the door cavity and pulled down the wire which was the inside door release. At least it made the car that little bit harder to steal.
Crazy, door story....but I can see that happening in the classic cars.
I guess with the new tech, the doors are coming full circle in a weird way. Reading about the Tesla door handles in cold - all these door stories of 2019, 2020 will sound super old school well in about 30-40 years from now.
02-18-2019 | 09:56 AM
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02-18-2019 | 03:44 PM
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The intercoolers were moved from the wheel wells to over the engine, but I suppose the rear bumper cap still needs to be removed (a 15 min job for the experienced but a PIA for the DYIer) to change the air filters ever 40k miles or so.