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Old 01-26-2019, 01:00 PM
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While I know this isn't a new phenom it still begs the question....why? I grabbed a photo of the exhaust last night and was surprised at how much smaller the actual exhaust is compared to the bumper hole. Let's hear your thoughts......Phil

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My honest thought is that it is ridiculous.
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Have you ever noticed how many cars on the road today have mis-aligned exhaust tips? Drives me crazy. Well, this solves that. And for all the trolls (constantly repeating themselves) that keep saying they are "fake" make zero sense. There is just not a direct connection. Big difference.

Wonder if part of the reason is noise abatement? Remember 6th grade music class, and learning about horn bell shapes and Dizzie Gillespie? Maybe the seperation reduces a few country specific dBs?
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Originally Posted by Phil T
and was surprised at how much smaller the actual exhaust is compared to the bumper hole.
Phil, I think there needs to be a bit of an air pocket (the gap), so you don't have a bumper S'mores.
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I thought it was reported that they had something to do with protecting the exhaust system with the new particle filters from bumps.
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It's to reduce insurance premiums.

It makes it easier (or cheaper anyway) to fix in the event of rear end damage. There is now more of a buffer zone between bumper and exhaust, which is directly connected to the engine.
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I find the outrage over these somewhat humorous. Stepping back, philosophically, are these evil compared to...you know...exhaust tips? Aren't they kind of "fake," too? Or at least purely cosmetic? I mean, is the value of a purely cosmetic tip clamped onto a pipe to make it prettier so much greater than a purely cosmetic "tip" mounted to the bumper instead? And, if so, where was the outrage with the current GT2 RS?

So this is an exhaust tip that buffers expensive mechanicals from (likely) damage out in the real world, reducing repair costs and thus insurance costs. And the problem is…?

Don't get me wrong: My favorite exhaust systems, philosophically, involve pipes that look right without a tip or tips—think early four-cam peashooter, or 911/914-6 sport muffler—though I will admit some tips look pretty great. The 930 and early 928 come to mind. The 991.1 and 991.2 Carrera S (non-PSE) quad tips do, as well. And, fwiw, 992 non-PSE > 991.2 PSE if appearance matters...
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For me the "Bigger" issue is the size of the bumper holes. Why make them so large and then use a soda straw for the actual exhaust.....makes no sense. I guess this is form over function at it's finest and Porsche got right in line with everyone else. The worst case I've seen is the new Audi Q5.....the actual exhaust is pointed at the ground.

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Why start a new thread when there's already other threads on this exact topic???
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Originally Posted by atombomb33
Why start a new thread when there's already other threads on this exact topic???
Not every topic gets searched prior to stating one......so maybe you should've linked in the others so we have additional perspective.......Phil
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Originally Posted by Phil T
Not every topic gets searched prior to stating one......so maybe you should've linked in the others so we have additional perspective.......Phil
It's literally only a few threads below this one. And it's all over the "Hate" thread on nearly every page. Not my job to link you to something that is right there - perhaps a quick look next time before posting about something that has been discussed ad nauseam.
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Originally Posted by atombomb33
It's literally only a few threads below this one. And it's all over the "Hate" thread on nearly every page. Not my job to link you to something that is right there - perhaps a quick look next time before posting about something that has been discussed ad nauseam.
It's also not your job to be the forum thread police......you didn't have to comment or read it if your appetite for this subject has been filled already......Phil
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Originally Posted by Phil T
For me the "Bigger" issue is the size of the bumper holes. Why make them so large and then use a soda straw for the actual exhaust.....makes no sense. I guess this is form over function at it's finest and Porsche got right in line with everyone else. The worst case I've seen is the new Audi Q5.....the actual exhaust is pointed at the ground.

^ Good point. About as useful as the "tips" seen on the Taycan prototypes. At least actual exhaust gases come through the ones on the 991 GT2 RS and 992.

I don't love the new setup, but I don't hate it, either.

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PORSCHE: Thing I don't get is why the HUGE exhaust orifice holes, but then you have such a small underwhelming nubbin shifter??

Overcompensate then underwhelm?? Doesn't make sense.


Maybe Asian markets like the exhaust holes?

https://carbuzz.com/news/did-this-gu...with-a-porsche
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Originally Posted by STG
why the HUGE exhaust orifice holes, but then you have such a small underwhelming nubbin shifter??
LOL. Count me as one who doesn't like PSE on the 991.2 or 992, preferring the other designs. Don't much care for the "pipes" on the GT2 RS, either, though they don't offend me.

As for the nubbin, it's a non-issue for me as I wouldn't have PDK anyway. Now, if they use a tiny shifter for tiny hands, we may have a problem…


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